Talk:Hans/@comment-25041621-20140619221141/@comment-1416077-20140621172240

How can I possibly NOT take being called "retarded" as an insult?

I am deeply offended, as I have never once called you a disparaging name.

I didn't say Gothel was misunderstood: I said the had the most legitimate reason for her villainy of all of them: Hans could live without a throne, but Gothel will DIE without the sun flower's magic. Her motivation is FAR more solid than his: indisputable survival.

The word for someone like you is "fangirl"; some take offense at that, some don't; I don't really care either way. You believe that Hans is good, despite all the evil he has done, plotted to do and would have done had it not been for Olaf's intervention.

I'll bet you have not even given thought to the question I posed earlier: If someone like Hans had tried to kill YOU without remorse, would you still think he's misunderstood?

I ask this because in my many years as a state prosecutor before retiring, I saw plenty of battered women who kept going back to some of the most abusive, mean, cold-hearted SOB's on the island; all of which had sob story backgrounds of sadness, abuse and neglect. Each of these professional victims kept going back because they attested that their "man" was simply "misunderstood"; that they knew the "real him" and that he would never hurt them... it was all accidental or it was their fault.

I don't know you. I have no idea how old you are. But I see you headed down this road. Yes, it's "just a cartoon movie", but if you cant see it here, you won't see it in real life, when "he" can be more charming and endearing than any animated character could ever be.

You are a fangirl, and have found other fangirls who are as blind as you are when it comes to seeing the very flaws in their fave character.

How can you possibly ignore the fact that he tried to commit murder?

How can you possibly claim that his greed is a more solid motivation than actual life-or-death survival?

You are blind to the facts and fail to use the reason every human being has in order to justify your wishful thinking; furthermore, you seek to infect others with your misguided ideas.

Now, I will admit that in a sequel they might have him repent, racant, beg forgiveness and marry Elsa for a happily ever after. On the other hand, he might convert to Islam, go on the Hajj, meet Jasmine and steal her from Hercules (who stole her from Aladdin in another film)... it's all up to the producers, what they want and how drunk they are when an idea is pitched to them.

I deal with what is in front of me: not wishful thinking on what might possibly happen based on an offhand second-hand remark by Hans's voice actor.

If you think Scar is evil and not misunderstood, then Hans must be evil too.

If you think Mother Gothel is evil and not misunderstood, then Hans must be evil too.

If you think Jafar is evil and not misunderstood, then Hans must be evil too.

Of course, they can be moth evil and misunderstood... in which case, Hand is still evil.

Tell me how you feel about Hans's plot to murder Elsa? Or Anna first and then Elsa? You have danced around the issue; tell me point blank if his leaving Anna to die and his backstabbing swing in any way make him less evil and more misunderstood. Would he still be "not evil" if he had killed Elsa and Anna and seized the throne?

Please, do answer these questions.