Talk:Star Wars: The Force Awakens/@comment-1031724-20151215001331/@comment-26423071-20151220033440

Well, the thing is...

...it's simply too early to tell.

All this movie is set up the fact that the Empire is still around, only it's now called "the First Order".

We are not gonna have a "climatic battle" until Episode IX, which is where we'll truly find out if the First Order can be wiped out permantently, or if it's an unwinnable battle.

Kylo Ren is conflicted between the Light Side and the Dark Side of the Force (I don't want to give away why, spiderman is right and the reason behind his internal conflict is a suprise that shouldn't be spoiled), so he can still be redeemed. But snoke is pure evil, beyond redemption, and therefore must be killed.

Will Kylo Ren's death or redemption, and Snoke's death, finally bring peace to the Galaxy, or will the Empire endure? We'll have to wait until Episode IX to know for sure.