Talk:Elsa the Snow Queen/@comment-26438628-20150625122805/@comment-1672596-20150625160701

Yeah, agreed, and this is despite what the likes of Simone de Beauvoir or Betty Friedan stated of what women should be like.

Besides, it makes sense Elsa would need a love interest since, as she's ruling a kingdom, she'll need a love interest to bring about an heir anyhow.

And quite frankly, it's largely because of this notion that women in order to be truly independent have to hate men and not associate themselves with them that Belle frankly ended up ruined in Beauty and the Beast, since for most of the film, she doesn't attempt to go for any male in the village and especially not Gaston (really, there are plenty of males at the village she could go for, and if she truly just didn't want to marry Gaston, just avoid him and go for another guy there. It's not like Gaston's the only male in the village), and if the Disney Comics are to be believed, she refused to associate herself with them specifically because they're male, which makes her as bad of a sexist if not even worse of one than Gaston. Apparently, Belle's characterization in the film was because Jeffrey Katzenberg demanded for a total rewrite of the film to have a feminist twist to the tale thanks to critics claiming Ariel was "cloyingly sexist" simply because she actually WANTED to go for Eric, and Linda Woolverton, the film's screenwriter, specifically modeled Belle after the Women's Liberation Movement which was rather notorious for its rather anti-male ideology. She even indicated she refused to let Belle bake, even for herself, just because Belle was a "liberated woman." And if that's not all, she actually went as far as to heavily insult Belle's predecessors by claiming they all had no goals beyond marriage and love, that they simply waited for their princes, and were all insipid (and this is despite Ariel, one of these predecessors Woolverton slammed, actually being independent, proactive, and all of that despite actually HAVING a love interest. And really, the only one of the DPs before Belle who actually MATCHED the categories she listed was Aurora due to a huge lack of characterization on her part.).

Although, I will mention, at the risk of sounding offensive, sometimes it is best for women to settle down when they have a kid. After all, the alternative is to place them in daycare, leaving them unloved by the parent and possibly brainwashed, like what's going on today (TRIMC 95, do you think those protests that ruined Greece happened because the students just decided to do it? No, they were brainwashed by educators who were socialist and advocated for a victory to socialism).