Talk:Victor, Hugo, and Laverne/@comment-1442831-20170423033627

Honestly, they do serve a purpose to the film. Considering what a cruel man Frollo is, how do you expect Quasimodo to of became such a good person? Esmeralda even points that out! It's not like with Tangled where it's a fairytale that relies on emotion instead of logic and therefore can get away with it. Everyone says it's a serious movie, so if anyone says "He turned out good because it's a Disney movie" then stop saying that it's a serious movie that can't have the Gargoyles. Laverne acts as the voice of wisdom for Quasimodo, they encourage Quasimodo to get out of his comfort zone, show out Quasi turned out so well despite being raised by Frollo, and they call him out when he's being dumb (Hugo: Okay, Quasi. We'll leave you alone. Victor: Afterall, we're only made of stone. Laverne: We just thought you were made of something stronger).

As for the "ruining the tone of the movie," they're really not in the movie THAT MUCH! At max, I think they have only like 10-15 minutes of screentime. They're hardly in the movie to actually "ruin the tone of the movie." The mice and cat from Cinderella steal the spotlight away from Cinderella and more important elements of the film more than the Gargoyles do. Clopin is one of the most popular characters in the movie and he's just as goofy and comedic relief as they are. He serves even less of a purpose other than to narrate the beginning of the movie, sing some songs, try to hang Quasi and Phoebus, and sing the finale. *SARCASTIC TONE* Yeah, he really added a lot that the makers of the movie couldn't have done in a different way without him.

I can understand the hate for Hugo, since he is pretty obnoxious, even though I like him, but Victor and Laverne are genuinely good character with more serious moments than silly ones. These three are harmless characters and really aren't deserving of the passionate hatred that I've seen them produce in so many people. Just because I like them it doesn't mean I think others should too, but I feel like the massive hatred towards them is pretty nitpicky and overblown.