Talk:Ariel/@comment-5473378-20141015231325/@comment-1672596-20141015233336

You can say exactly the same thing regarding all the main characters of pretty much everything, even Belle (and BTW, I have a lot of things to state about some flaws she had that actually ruined the moral, especially when her foils from their behavior in their limited screentime came across as actually coming closer to true internal beauty, purity of heart in other words, than Belle did.) or even Snow White.

And honestly, would you have preferred it if Ariel just let Eric drown, maybe taunt him for it? Or maybe just let Flounder or Sebastian get eaten by Glut or Grimsby, respectively, risking her life in the former case? She did a lot of stuff that was actually commendable in her film. I think the only real flaw she did besides the bit about surfacing was turning to Ursula, which again she probably wouldn't have even done had A. Flotsam and Jetsam didn't flick that statue remnant at her (since even in her unstable state, she did say no to them), and B. Triton didn't pretty much throw a violent temper tantrum and destroy her stuff in front of her. At least be glad she wasn't portrayed exactly like the original Little Mermaid, because I can assure you she was far worse.

And as far as Shrek, some of the things he did were actually pretty reprehensible, even worse in the (first) sequel, where he and Fiona may have literally suffocated a lot of fairies by farting in the mud-Jacuzzi, and that was in the beginning of the film. Heck, Fiona even threw Ariel to become shark food just because she was on Shrek, and it wasn't even clear if Ariel even intended to switch places with Fiona (remember, a wave came crashing in, and based on her reaction, she was pretty shocked as well). And BTW, the whole internal beauty bit is meaningless since Sartre, a man who was ugly even by his own admission managed to score a lot of girls (keep in mind the girls definitely weren't focusing on his looks at all, since it would have been obvious what they would have done if they had, which is wisely steer clear from him), and betray them anyways, and that's not even getting into his promoting well-known mass murderers and praising them as being "complete human beings."