Talk:The Bimbettes/@comment-4047575-20131011174120/@comment-1672596-20131226034657

My views on them are neutral, personally. On the one hand, they seem to be little different from the Female Anime Stereotype (eg, the characters from Love Hina, the background characters from Princess vs. Princess, the girls from Battle Vixens, etc. etc.) that exploits women (something I was taught to dislike), and besides which, while its more likely the songwriters fault rather than them specifically (honestly, I consider what happened in the Gaston reprise to be the absolute worst villain plot scene I have ever seen.), its extremely dumbfounding that they'd even support Gaston's plan to marry Belle, despite he and LeFou making it extremely obvious from the little they revealed that it was extremely unethical and amoral. I mean, putting aside the fact that, based on the overall characterization of the Villagers (which naturally includes the Bimbettes), they are most likely fully aware of at least Christian morality, the Bimbettes have absolutely nothing to gain for letting Gaston carry out that plan (especially seeing how an earlier scene regarding the failed "wedding" had them crying a river because of Gaston's decision to marry Belle, and it being extremely obvious that it was not tears of joy). Actually, they'd have everything to lose by letting Gaston carry out the plan, as even without morality, their chances of actually marrying Gaston are gone for good if he succeeds (and their chances of even having a physical relationship with, much less marrying Gaston, was already extremely low as it was, based on how, despite their eyes being glued on him, they were completely ignored by him throughout the film, save for when he lifted the bench they were on in what was purely a demonstration of his own strength). Not to mention that, although the rest of the bar might theoretically be seedy, its extremely unlikely they were (heck, they don't even fit the characterization of hookers, which is what some people actually called them as. For one thing, as noted above, they haven't even slept with the entire village thanks to their fixation on Gaston, and its also immensely unlikely they ever dated Gaston, either, based on the implications that Belle may have been living in the village since childhood and that Gaston fell for Belle at first sight. It wouldn't even be a stretch to assume that the Bimbettes are virgins (yes, the musical does imply that they did have some degree of a sexual relationship with Gaston that the latter planned to continue even after marrying Belle, but musical productions on Broadway don't count as canon, as they largely do drastic changes from the film, some of them being downright unnecessary [eg, removing Vanessa and moving "Under the Sea" to AFTER Triton destroyed Ariel's Grotto, which by consequence made Sebastian seem like a really big jerk considering HE'S the reason why Triton found out in the first place about Ariel saving Eric]. I'm focusing on the original movie and supplementary materials directly tied to the film such as the novelizations, comics, sequels, possibly even theme park attractions if needs be). Even the Balcony Harem Girls at least had some hints at not being virgins, such as their name and their job profession being explicitly stated to be harem girls in the beginning song, and that was a kids movie.)

On the other hand, whether I actually like the Bimbettes or not, I nonetheless have come to the conclusion that I have a better chance at trusting them than I would Belle right now. Not because of their looks, but because I had some extremely bad experiences with Feminists/1960s individuals who were teaching various English Department courses (and in one case, History Department course) who pushed the claim about us Christians being misogynistic monsters who invented it via the Original Sin doctrine, that we never granted women an education until the 1960s (a clear lie, since one of the few job professions women were allowed to take was becoming a schoolteacher, which naturally implies being educated, and this was happening at least a decade before the sixties), pushing for second-wave feminism and all its extremely bad slogans (such as "women need men, like fish need bicycles) and its free sex PR, supported socialism, and bash us males (only one of the teachers I encountered was an actual female, although that ultimately doesn't matter at this point). That, plus some research into some intellectuals comparable to Belle in that regard managing to either fall hook line and sinker for very obvious propaganda (such as the KGB's Deputy portrayal of our Pope at the time of World War II, Pope Pius XII, as a Hitler supporter, despite quite a bit of evidence, including Israel's chief rabbi who at that time would most certainly have been on the run from the Nazis stating that Pius XII actually risked the lives of not only himself, but his entire flock in Europe, to save any of the Jewish people they come across, or how about how Castro and Guevara managed to snooker the intellectual elites everywhere in the Western World with the belief they were anti-Communist?) or otherwise (very likely) knowingly propagating the horrors of Communism and/or spreading (negative) lies about us or brushing away the crimes of Communists (such as Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beaveroux, the latter of whom is one of the key players in second wave feminism with her book Feminine Mystique, yet was repeatedly and cruelly betrayed by the former. Also Ernst Hemmingway, who actually pushed the lie of Communism being good even when there was blatant evidence against it being good when going to Spain, not to mention his basically backstabbing his parents about his apparently remaining Christian (he gave up religion while in college and spent his time attacking it) and falsely converting to Catholicism), at worst even creating the means for Communism in the first place (such as Rousseau and Marx, and the former is the reason why modern education is what it currently is). Given most of the Villagers (and by extension, the Bimbettes) being strongly implied to be Christian (while Belle in comparison is implied by her constant complaints in "Belle" about the provincial life to possibly be at best a deist, and at worst an atheist), and as evidenced by their devotion to Gaston and overall behavior, it's extremely unlikely they'd backstab and constantly abuse males (which I have actually been a victim of, by militant female feminists, no less. It's actually one of the reasons why I've largely abandoned feminism).