Talk:The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea/@comment-24568211-20170610104906/@comment-1672596-20170610112241

1. Okay, I'll give you that complaint. Though at least the Special Edition had given elaborated a bit on her character by revealing that she was essentially a victim of abuse.

2. Actually, looking back on the wall, I actually thought it was actually quite a bit of brilliance from the writers, considering the fact that it not only kept Melody from going into the ocean as witness protection from Morgana (or at least, that was the intent), but due to how it was strategically placed, it also prevented Morgana herself OR her minions from being able to access the castle as well. That's Batman-level of crazy prepared, and shows that Ariel certainly learned her lesson regarding Flotsam and Jetsam spying and keeping tabs on her for Ursula. Besides, I can tell you one thing: at least it's a more creative plot element than Starkiller Base from The Force Awakens was (I don't care what the film claims: It's essentially a third Death Star with the exact same weakness as the original one, only difference being the guys manning it were arguably even MORE incompetent than the guys on the Death Star, while Tarkin at least was somewhat justified in thinking the Death Star would win out even with the weakness.).

3. I'll give you that, though I'd more or less say terrible, and in fact it alongside Sock Party for Kids WB is the reason I don't like songs anymore. That said, I may plan on watching it as... therapy, I guess. Think along the lines of Romans often deliberately injecting themselves with poisons enough times to build up an immunity.

4. Not sure I can comment there, though, since I never got that far into the film. Though that being said, he can't be any worse than Flounder in Ariel's Beginning. Now THAT was a character that truly lacked any of his notable characteristics.

5. Well, how else is she going to find Melody?

6. First of all, it's a trident, not a staff. Second of all, in the first movie, the trident obliterated Ariel's grotto, which also took quite a lot of work for her to build up. Heck, it can even vaporize living things as demonstrated with Flotsam and Jetsam, possibly even Ursula.

Anyways, as bad as this film was (and I'm not a particularly big fan of it either), Ariel's Beginning was undoubtedly worse. At least Return to the Sea, for all its faults, actually ATTEMPTED to maintain continuity with the original movie and the TV series. Ariel's Beginning decided "screw it" and threw continuity out of the window into a garbage heap, considering the alterations to Flounder's character (and failing to even give some development to actually SHOW him becoming the worrywart we all know and love), adding in a music ban that hadn't even been implied in the film, not to mention Ariel's role in saving music makes absolutely no sense considering in the first movie it is heavily implied that the concert she missed was meant to be her formal debut, at least regarding Ariel's sister's band, and there is absolutely no reference to a surfacing ban or Triton's hatred of humans, let alone Ariel actually having or even DEVELOPING ANY interest in humans or their objects at all. Oh, and also completely mixing up the birth order of Ariel's sisters.