Talk:Obi-Wan Kenobi/@comment-31778166-20170501133557/@comment-1672596-20180801191456

Technically, "obsession with someone" is closer to lust rather than greed ("greed" specifically entails material possessions, and last I checked, people are NOT possessions, material or otherwise. That Lucas seems to think so from his comments speaks far more about him as a person, and NOT in a good way.). And besides, I'm pretty sure trying to protect someone from death is NOT the same thing as greed by any stretch. If anything, greed especially in terms of family would be more like if Anakin, say, orchestrated Padme's kidnapping and nearly killing her via terrorists specifically to get access to the Jedi's bank account, you know, like what Captain Mike Watson did in the NCIS episode See No Evil.

And while I will concede your point regarding how in religion, Catholicism in particular, you aren't supposed to marry when entering something like, say, the clergy. However, they generally don't tastelessly imply that you should effectively take joy at someone dying a painful death (gee, if you want to get technical, Palpatine being a massive sadist and explicitly taking joy in killing people ironically has him following through with Yoda's advice to Anakin perfectly, since he's obviously rejoicing in people dying, just as Yoda advised Anakin to do regarding Padme.). And they certainly don't try to crush any attempts at family to the extent that they refuse to take in eight year olds because they're too old. Both of which, BTW, are what the Jedi adhered to, unfortunately. To give a comparison, the Jedi are pretty much Napoleon's dogs from George Orwell's Animal Farm, right down to how they were raised (they were taken away shortly after birth, and made to essentially forget their parents to serve the Jedi and the Republic).

And your point about him hiding the knowledge about Vader's true identity reminds me of something else: What Obi-Wan and Yoda did there was even worse when Obi-Wan and Yoda essentially tried to convince Luke to essentially commit patricide against Vader (and yes, they did in fact tell Luke to essentially kill his own father. Luke even refused to do so with the exact words of "You know I can't kill my own father." And they don't even bother to rephrase their statement by saying something like "I said 'confront', not 'kill'", and if anything Obi-Wan basically said the Emperor basically won.). That's... ugh. That's actually very bad, to be honest, trying to trick Luke into killing Vader, all in order to essentially settle a grudge (and let's face it, that's what it amounts to despite Lucas claiming Jedi don't want revenge.). If it was simply to protect Luke, that's one thing, and I can forgive that bit, but their telling Luke to kill Vader points to it going far beyond simply protecting him, or his sister.

And considering Lucas openly stated that Obama would make a great Jedi at one point, a so-called "hero in the making" back in 2008 when he visited Japan, I'd say he definitely thought the Jedi way was indeed perfection, or at least his view of it, rather than making them flawed.