Talk:Eilonwy/@comment-24557651-20140616223254/@comment-929837-20140621002738

Here, in this discussion, lies the bane of modern superhero movies, the reason why most who try to imitate Nolan fail:

"Dark" does NOT mean "mature".

"The Black Cauldron" is dark.

"The Hunchback of Notre Dame" is mature.

So, SO many directors nowadays are trying to replicate Nolan's sucess by making their movies darker. But, dark as they may be, they are still not mature.

"Godzilla" is dark, but it's not mature.

"Man of Steel" is dark, but it's not mature.

"Pacific Rim" is dark, but it's not mature.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is often dark, but it's never mature.

"The Dark Knight" wasn't good because it was dark. It was good because it was mature. It showed how the human spirit triumphs even in the fact of the greatest of evil. It shows that evil cannot comprehend good, and thus cannot defeat it. It shows that great evil exists in this world, and we can be corrupted by it, or we can choose to fight it with our last breath.

The slew of Nolan wannabes who go "this movie is so dark and realistic!" never introduce the deep, powerful themes and morals that "The Dark Knight" have.

"The Hunchback of Notre Dame" explored themes that few other moviesin the Animated Canon dare to touch: the evil of religious fanaticism, the fact that the natural lust in all men will drive a fanatic Catholic towards desire of rape, the fact that we look down on those who are "ugly" or "weird" despite some of them being the noblest of people, the fact that we as people see Romani as "evil" even to this day despite the fact that they don't like being persecute.

How many other Animated Canon movies can you name where the "ugly" protagonist not only DOESN'T get a love interest at the end, but what makes him "ugly" is there and isn't changed by magic or a lover's kiss or something like that?