Talk:Zootopia/@comment-25097798-20140923190027/@comment-15306376-20141012041948

I don't see how being snarky and deconstructive makes a movie better. The whole "twisted fairy tale" schtik that started with Shrek has grown stale, and it'd be refreshing to see a straightforward, sincere fairy tale, with some good humor thrown in for good measure. Frozen could've been that, but it tried to be more subversive than sincere. I'm not saying subversive humor can't work; in fact, I generally like subversive humor. I just don't think Frozen did it very well. Really, the movie had it not been subversive, but rather mature. Much like Beauty and the Beast, it fully embraces the fact it's a fairy tale, but also plays with certain tropes in a more mature, nuanced, less Dreamworks-y manner.

I also don't see your point about Wreck-It Ralph. It thought it was more Futurama than Channel Awesome in its comedy (then again, it was directed by a Futurama writer).