Talk:Clopin/@comment-30796761-20170730000035

As the gypsy king, he should have had more of a role.

My best friend and I were real into him and the absence of his character development. We gave him a backstory.

Because he is  seen entertaining the town's children in the film's opening and felt particularly affectionate towards a little girl during the final moments we said  that he had a wife, Catherine and a little girl, Jezebella who were murdered by Frollo.

The pain of the loss corroded into the depths of his heart so he couldn't bring it to the surface. He's never spoken of it even to his people, Esmeralda is no exception.

In retrospect now, this also fits with his protectiveness of the Court of Miracles and his people, his rashness when Quasi and Phebous showed up.

It wasn't all as it seemed, however. We did this whole Post-HOND 2 RP in which Jezebella is actually alive and ended up with a solider's family where she was treated poorly. Clopin encounters her street performing and impressed invites her to the Court of Miracles and to join his people. It's only after some time that he realizes she's his little girl and it's, of course, a very emotional revelation.

This was at least a decade ago, in our high school days. We didn't record much then in any manner but would develop our RPs verbally (we could and did spend hours on them, on the phone if not in person), however, I did do a write up of the night Catherine and presumably, Jezebella were killed.

This, however, was back when everyone was using floppies (yeah I'm kind of old) and I discarded my entire stack not long after they went obsolete so the piece is long gone.

Now that I'm playing Kingdom Hearts DDD I recently thought how disappointing it is that Clopin is not in Sora's version of La Cite Des Cloches, the HOND based world since he visits the Court of Miracles. This resulted in that RP and lost write-up piece entering my thoughts and I now miss it.

I'm liking some other theories I've recently seen.

I believe it sensible to assume that Clopin rescued Esmeralda at some point when she was little and that it's quite plausible that the man at the beginning of the film who attempts to shield Quasi's mother is Clopin's father. Recall their little group was ambushed while entering Paris and there is no indication that that man did not survive so he could have started the Court of Miracles because of that night.

This would explain how Clopin knew of that night at least up until Quasi's mom took off running for her life. He probably got the rest from the Arch Decan.