Thread:Dan1394/@comment-25097798-20160418141348/@comment-1672596-20160418194337

Have to agree with the both of you, the recent trend of twist villains is getting annoying. I'll take your word on King Candy/Turbo since I've never seen the film (I would have gone to see it being a gamer myself if it weren't for the fact that there were two people I simply could not support who are acting as the top billing. Let's leave it at that lest we open another can of worms), but the others are definitely bad. Three plot twist villains, two badly handled (though that being said, I do think that Hans is ultimately better than Gaston, though not by much), and the third's barely much of a villain anyhow, an anti-villain at best. If we count the trashing of Sleeping Beauty that they call the Maleficent movie and how it utterly trashed Stefan and, well, practically all of the Sleeping Beauty cast all in the name of pushing a completely unneeded feminist agenda, we've got FOUR twist villains. Moana had better give us an actual villain that we can guess is evil from the start. I think the only thing worse than a twist villain is either villains who make their villainy so obvious that their mere existence is downright unrealistic (I'm thinking Gaston here, and let's face it, like him or hate him, there's no way any realistic person can pull of the stunt he did in the Gaston reprise and actually not only get away with it, but have everyone cheer him on despite making it obvious how evil such a plan was with absolutely no sugarcoating to make it palatable for the masses. If it were at all realistic, Gaston would have been arrested, or at the very least, the villagers' trust in him would have been shaken somewhat.) or swapped morality characters like the Rebel Alliance and the Galactic Empire in Star Wars especially if it's done in an extremely manipulative manner (in case you two are wondering what I mean by that: George Lucas had the good guys, the Rebel Alliance, be based on the Vietcong, who were utter depraved monsters, while he had the bad guys, the Galactic Empire, based on America, all as a means of spreading an anti-Vietnam War message, and we got tricked as a result. It's one thing to be anti-war, and it's also one thing, although bad enough, to root for the enemy during a wartime situation. It's quite another to not only root for the enemy, but also manipulate the audience into rooting for that same enemy by making it seem as though they are rooting for their home country, that just crosses a line. Thanks to that, I'm an Empire supporter when I had formerly supported the Rebels. And I don't usually root for bad guys, so the fact that I actually AM rooting for the bad guy in this case shows just how awful the action George Lucas did truly was.). Same with Giants.

I personally blame stuff like this for the mess that's coming out of Disney right now:


 * Metal Gear Solid 2 movie
 * Truth: The Man Who Sold the World (warning, this DOES contain massive spoilers for the game)
 * Peace Walker movie (If you really don't want to sit through the three hours, the most important bit is here)

If you thought Hans and Bellwether were badly written plot twist villains, you really should see these, because they're just about as bad, if not even worse.