Talk:Disney Revival/@comment-5342139-20141021203312/@comment-5342139-20141022211651

since the beginning, 'revival' of a Disney era is never supposed to be 'how Disney returns to their roots'. its always about how Disney regained huge critical and financial successes. in both cases, Frog did mediocre job.

also, u cant say which one is a 'classic' and which one is not. their critical reception are the same. Also, Bolt doesnt have the Disney formula? Disney isn't just known for its princesses, its known for its animals: Lady and the Tramp, 101 Dalmatians, Dumbo, Bambi, Lion King, etc. in other words, Bolt is the essence of Disney formulas.

and if u r talking about 'iconic status', Tiana has the same popularity as Pocahontas and Mulan. meaning, shes not popular, even against Rapunzel.

And 'revival' of a Disney era never starts with what 'paved' the way. its whats an instant success that regains peoples interest. Ichabod and Mr Toad paved the way for Cinderella, Great Mouse Detective paved ways for Little Mermaid. yet, none of them are part of the respective revivals.

and what makes Rapunzel 'not' the start? the film has Alan Menken (a prominent Renaissance legend) making the songs, has a princess, a musical, memorable sidekicks, memorable princess and her love interest, fairy-tale plot, the first to use painterly-CG that combines CG and hand drawn together.

comparing both Tangled and Frog, Tangled did double the amount of Frog, had a way higher critical reception than Frog, a more turning point than Frog (use of painterly CG, while Frog used hand drawn and didn't impact anything).

Frog, on the other hand, was a disappointment financially, and forced Disney to change its strategies. but making Disney changing itself is not a 'turning point'. Black Cauldron did the same thing, forcing Disney t changed. Home on the Range as well. all 3 of them are not turning points. Even Disney themselves realized this.

Tangled is what paved the way for the future. after Frog, Disney was about to re-abandon hand drawn as well as princess films. it was only after Tangled that they began to trust themselves again and the start of massive critical and financial hits, which Frog wasn't either of them.