Talk:Moana/@comment-24791592-20140424125008/@comment-929837-20140426001834

...I do, at least most of them.

As a giantess fan, I have understandable issues with "Jack the Giant Slayer".

As for "Alice in Wonderland"...it's dark, but it still has zero McMoron elements. Alice Kingsleigh is not the One True Alice, but she's not the Impostor either. She's another factor in the equation, an Alice that is older and more aggressive, yet still noble, heroic and benevolent. If the One True Alice is the actual comic book Batman, and the Impostor is Crazy Steve (look up "Atop the Fourth Wall"), then I say Alice Kingsleigh is the Nolan Batman, with all the aggressiveness of Crazy Steve and all of the noble heroic personality of the main comic book Batman.

"Snow White and the Hunstman" ISN'T as dark as everyone makes it out to be. It's not horrop, it's epic fantasy. Yes, it's dark, but so are "The Black Cauldron", "The Dark Crystal", "Legend", "Hawk the Slayer", "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug", and other movies in the genre (the epic fantasy genre, that is). "Snow White and the Hunstman" just had the bad luck of habing terrible marketing AND opening just a month after "Mirror, Mirror" (which IS legitimately lighter than "Snow White and the Hunstman", butr "Mirror Mirror" was going for comedy while "Snow White and the Hunstman" was going for epic fantasy).

"Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters" is awesome, the two of them hunting down every evil witch they find. It's basically "Ghostbusters" meets "Army of Darkness". But of course, the average Disney fan would find it disturbing. But that movie isn't mean for Disney fans, it's made for fans of stuff like "A Nightmare on Elm Street", "Friday the 13th", "Commando", "Shaun of the Dead", "The Expendables" or "Kick Ass".

"Oz the Great and Powerful" isn't dark at all. There are dark elements, sure, but Oz isn't Wonderland. It's a far more dangerous place, with more menacing vilains and an actual struggle between good and evil born out of logic. And "Oz, the Great and Powerful" reflects that.

As for the upcoming ones...precedent. The 2003 version of "Peter Pan" was darker than the 50s Disney version, and "Ever After" was darker than the 40s Disney version of Cinderella.