Talk:Mulan (2020 film)/@comment-27373870-20180728212006/@comment-4889892-20180808131709

Oh wow. Ask any other Westerner what the Equal Fields System is. Ask them to tell you the story of Yang Guifei, Xishi, Diachan, Zhaojun, or the Butterfly Lovers. Ask them to tell you the differences between the Mulan movie and the poem. Ask them about Wu Zetian, Li Yuan, Princess Pingyang, Princess Taiping, Emperor Gaozong, Shangguan Wan'er, Li Bo... They might know of Taizong if the paid any attention in class. Ask them about the Imperial Exam. Ask them what a queue was. Ask them who the Manchus were. Ask them what dynasty the Xiongnu attacked and what dynasty the Gokturks attacked. They might remember if the happened to watch The History of the Entire World I Guess. Haha. Ask them about the alliance with Silla and wars with Gogoryo. Ask them how terrible Yang Yangdi was. Ask them about the Grand Canal. Ask them if they actually believe fortune cookies are Chinese. Ask them what kind of sword Mulan is using. Ask them what number is lucky in China, what red represents, or what color is used for mourning. Ask them who the Yellow Emperor was. Or Fu Hao. Ask them if they think the Xia dynasty existed or not. Ask them when foot binding came along, and who actually got their feet bound. What was the Boxer Rebellion? The Opium Wars. Zheng He's sails. They might remember the past three events, again, if they paid any attention in class. (Most people don't). We could go in as far as mentioning Cpop. I could really go on. Yeah, most Westerners have no clue.

Disney's Mulan is a fantasy. How do you expect to separate it from any other Mulan film. A witch? If Disney, the Magic Kingdom, is going to make a witch, she's not going to be simply performing rituals. She's going to be casting spells. And where did you get the information that they aren't actually giving Mulan superpowers? From the description "a girly martial arts extravaganza?" That doesn't sound good. They could of at least said, expect a Chinese style wuxia film, unlike the original, if they want to go that route. That's what Westerners have to work with. No, Disney does not have to explain, but if they don't they should know nobody's going to shut up. Maybe that's what the want. I don't know.

Being the last troops? Ok. Make Shang's troop larger. Have guards at the palace. Have several enemy troops. I mean, China has more than just one war going on, and I'm sure the Huns have more than one giant troop. They might even have traitors. Maybe the avalanche killed all of a certain group of Huns, but no surprise, there's more.

I don't take this scene as a joke, but an oversimplification and dramatization, because again, it's a cartoon for kids. You'll find this no matter what culture is being portrayed. I think a lot of the inaccuracies stem from oversimplification. The live action can have the same relative plot, without such issues.

If you're referring to the live-action Mulan starring Zhang Ziyi, that one just disappeared from us, no word. No explanation. Was there any explanation in China?

So you think however the movie was, it would be doomed? Mayne that's why they almost didn't make it. But really, with it now being 20 years since the cartoon was released, I think it's more about the nature of remakes and how they are meant for the next generation to see the same stories in a way they'll understand, and draw on the nostalgia of the past generation. Which, of course, this film seems to be breaking.

That wouldn't be enough here. Without a completely new name, it's going to be associated. It's probably too late now. Everone is going to think of it as the same.