Thread:Alex2424121/@comment-30592523-20161205200912/@comment-30592523-20161205203332

Seriously? O.o

Just look at the page about Atka and say it's not speculation then. That description of the character isn't even right, nothing in the movie shows he doesn't believe in spirits or that his reasoning to go after Kenai was to marry Nita at all costs (which would require proof that he knows that specific bear is Kenai and not some random bear and any speech that he knows about Nita liking Kenai and got angry; which simply never happens in the movie at any point). Where is the reference to that? The proof by any Disney developer of that? If you want to leave that information on the wiki, you need to prove it is real. There's not even evidence of most of the information on that entire page.

And the same goes for several other pages.

How do we know the likes and dislikes of Man from Bambi when we never even see the character? What about the Bear from The Fox and the Hound, it never spoke and appeared for only a few moments, how do people put down its likes and dislikes? Same goes for Atka (appears for only a few moments). There's likes and dislikes for the freaking Cave of Wonders from Aladdin! All that is speculation, nothing in any of those movies even hints at those characters' likes/dislikes.

Ronno is clearly a rival, that's what he is stablished as in the first movie, and that doesn't change at all in the second movie (there is no moment that anyone mentions him as a villain): a rival for Faline's attention, which is something very common to happen in the lives of deers - male deers competing for the females. In no moment he did anything evil in any of the movies to qualify as a villain; it's not like some cameo on a disney cartoon even counts as anything canon, it is an easter egg, not the character's biography.

Denahi is also clearly the main antagonist, because there is no one else that can play that role in the Brother Bear movie, just take a look at every other character. He is the only one that fulfills the role, and there's no movie without an antagonist, someone always opposes the protagonist, even if not on purpose (Denahi's case). He was trying to kill his brother (the protagonist) and did that for the largest portion of the movie, how does that not qualify him as the main antagonist?

Man should at least have a Bad/Neutral alignment, since people will argue over whether he is a villain or not (since it's not possible to determinate whether he is hunting for food or sport).

And the Bear qualified as villain? The Bear isn't even the main antagonist, much less a villain. The Bear did the exact same thing Koda's mother did: attacked the protagonist, then got killed. How does he/it get a different qualification there?

You should do a more thorough review of those pages, because there are lots of non proven biased information without any references to a fact (therefore, speculations) that weren't removed; specially since you just said that speculations aren't permitted. Then go get rid of them, because there are many.