Talk:Hans/@comment-27926499-20160323001853/@comment-28218884-20160415204450

You have to realize this is Disney. They don't have the screen time, nor the desire, to fully expound on the nefarious exploits villains could achieve. In terms of good villains, Disney has produced two: Hans and Claude Frollo.

Also, Hans is definitely smarter than Scar. He knew when to reveal his hand, and knew how to get what he wants while still having the appeal of the people. Scar fails on all three, and he practically had no contigency plan, so I'm not sure why you're criticizing Hans in that regard. And Scar was completely incompetent in his regency; Hans doesn't give that sort of impression as his plans were well thought-out and he had a semblance of leadership quality.

Hans is a master manipulator; he knows what to say to get his way, and that's why he's "shapeless" as his exterior personality shifts to complement the person he's manipulating. He fooled everyone--Elsa included--and got her to drop her guard so he could go for the killing blow. This makes him vastly more interesting than, say, Scar and Gaston.

I don't think he's a morally gray character--he's pretty downright near psychopathic. A reform story would be interesting if done well, but I agree that the Elsa/Hans ship is weird. I don't think Elsa could ever forgive a man that nearly murdered her sister.