Talk:Jeffrey Katzenberg/@comment-1672596-20151116133731/@comment-1672596-20151214224624

I haven't seen Sinbad or Prince of Egypt (though I did hear the latter actually WAS good. Though I don't know if Katzenberg was actually involved in that. Wasn't it made before Katzenberg got the boot from Disney?). I have seen El Dorado, though I'm not entirely sure it was that good of a movie. Spirit was DEFINITELY a good movie, though. And yeah, plagiarizing A Bugs Life with Antz was not good at all. To be honest, the only 3D DreamWorks/Katzenberg movies I saw that actually WERE decent was Shrek, and probably the only ones that were good enough to do sequels were Shrek and Madagascar.

In fact, his being kicked out of Disney's probably one of the few things, if not the ONLY thing Michael Eisner did for Disney that actually WAS a good thing. Even then... I'm angry that he didn't fire Katzenberg sooner.

I mean, seriously, first there's Katzenberg's ruining of The Black Cauldron by needlessly cutting out four or six minutes from the film just so it would match his requirement of 10. At best, only six or four minutes out of the ten he cut actually would need to be cut. Then we get into his nearly ruining The Little Mermaid by having Part of Your World cut, all because he thought it was boring, and even used such a petty excuse as a kid focusing on picking up his popcorn more than watching the film (The Little Mermaid is the first movie I saw, and guess what, I never got bored with Part of Your World). Then we get into how he had Beauty and the Beast rewritten three bleepin' times, with the last draft being so divorced from the original story it's not even funny (probably the only similarities to the original tale were that Maurice ended up encountering the Beast, Belle trading places shortly thereafter, and Belle breaking the spell. That's it. Beyond all of that, it's basically the fairy-tale in name only), not to mention riddled with countless plot and animation errors (like, for example: the villagers don't even seem to even be aware of a beast in a castle, despite the castle being just a short distance away based on The Mob Song?). Then he did something similar with Aladdin, in what is infamously known as Black Friday for the development staff, and to make matters worse, Katzenberg didn't even allow them an extension, meaning they REALLY had to rush to development, which resulted in a mess of a film. Oh, and he also caused another Black Friday as well: This time with Toy Story, where he demanded that they go for a more adult, cynical edge to the story, resulting in Woody (and to some extent, the other toys) becoming such callous jerks they make even the characters of Family Guy in later seasons seem nice by comparison, which not only nearly cancelled Toy Story, but nearly shut down Pixar. Then we get into Pocahontas, pretty much his pet project, something he felt would be more of a success over The Lion King. What we instead got was basically Politically Correct tripe with the titular character made into a feminist and a babe instead of a little girl, a perverse romance that never even happened in real history, not to mention doesn't even MATCH up with real history (I can understand cutting out some deaths, but did they REALLY need to have John Smith becoming an Animist? Especially when Pocahontas in real life converted to Christianity) and one of the most shallow villains in the story, probably even MORE shallow than Gaston (which is saying a lot since the final version of Gaston's character was just poorly done, basically just someone who loves Belle as his motivation, and his reasoning for wanting to marry Belle made absolutely no sense even story-wise, as he's better off with one of those triplets if it was to go for the most beautiful woman in town). Ratcliffe was even the one Disney Villain to enter Scrappy territory, especially one who was of the Renaissance age.