Talk:Claude Frollo/@comment-26200221-20150909152526/@comment-1672596-20170816122011

I just remembered something regarding Maleficent and this whole debate:

At the time that Sleeping Beauty was made, Walt Disney actually had Prince Phillip, the hero, in other words, outright kill Maleficent in cold blood, something he was unwilling to do even with The Evil Queen, who was so scary he actually ordered for the animation team to tone down any future villains (and herself actually WAS killed by the hero, in this case, Snow White, in the original tale, by forcing her to dance in red hot iron shoes until she died during the wedding day). Similar to the Evil Queen, Maleficent also was subjected to a similar long-standing ban that was standard for Disney (and even after the ban was "lifted" to some extent, was rarely ever followed through): Specifically, that no hero in the future films should directly, deliberately kill the main villain, and that lasted up until Ursula's death in The Little Mermaid (and during development, she was actually intended to be worse, outright ignoring Flotsam and Jetsam's death at her hands. Probably the only reason she was given that redeemable quality was due to Katzenberg changing the ending to resemble Die Hard. And besides which, this and the other examples happened after Disney's death). Since Ursula, only three other villains (four if one counts changing history as deliberately killing the villain in the case of the bowler hat from Meet the Robinsons) have EVER been deliberately killed by the main protagonists in their feature films. They are Shan-Yu, King Candy, Lady Gothel. And of the four after Maleficent who died, only two of them actually matched up in villainy to her, and they are Shan Yu and King Candy). As far as where that leaves Frollo, let me just leave these words of wisdom to you guys: He apparently wasn't even considered evil enough to be killed by Quasimodo or even Esmerelda deliberately and directly (and this was despite being killed by Quasimodo in the original book). That should spell out to you guys that Frollo, at least if we go by Walt Disney himself, would not have been considered even close to as evil as Maleficent. It takes a special kind of evil if the guy who usually doesn't even allow heroes to deliberately kill villains either before or afterwards to make a notable (at the time) exception in that case.