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  • Hi there, is there a reason why you believe that the source provided to show that Stitch's Great Escape is closed should not be regarded asproof on this wiki? I would agree with you that it isn't proof that it's closed if this was the case on wikipedia but I don't understand why you think this should also be the case here.

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    • Because as McDoob stated over on Wikipedia it doesn't count as proof. This image was initially shared on social media, where anyone can share almost anything they want and make their own assumptions or fabricate their own stories.

      In other words, people can lie. That's what McDoob was basically trying to say this whole time. Even if the person who first leaked these photos was supposedly telling the truth, we don't know who they are, we don't know if they are trustworthy, and as a result, we cannot view them as a reliable source of information. To make matters worse, this ride's widespread negative reception has played a role as to why so many rumors about the ride were spread ever since it entered seasonal operation. Many people want this ride dead and will dig up anything they can get their hands on to declare it so. These photos have tied into their collective confirmation bias; the moment these people saw these photos, which were spread by someone who most likely didn't have permission from any subsidiary of Disney to take and/or share in the first place, they rushed to wherever they can to deem it closed once and for all. All this despite Disney themselves never announcing a closure or a new ride in the same location to this day, nor did they even remove the ride's official webpage. This is all why in Wikipedia's case that wiki had to put their foot down to say, "No, these photos are not reliable enough. We will not be marking it closed." Disney Wiki should not be accepting of these photos either; just because it's a fan-run wiki, doesn't mean they should hold to lower standards.

      This whole debate over this ride has been frustrating for the both of us. Even I don't think the ride is ever reopening, considering Disney's past reputation on ride closures (see 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: Submarine Voyage). But until Disney finally speaks for themselves about the ride—maybe they'll finally do so at D23 Expo this year—we shouldn't be falling over anything to support what one side wants to hear.

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    • The person who originally leaked it was Back Door Disney (which is how the leak started). My opinion is that a fan run wiki should be where fans can contribute what they think is right (regardless of hiw credible the information is) and I think it's right to keep wikipedia and fun run wiki's (such as this) seperate from each other.

      As I said I'd agree that these photos aren't credible information on wikipedia since thats more of a professional, encyclopedia style wiki and information like that shouldn't be on there. But since this is fan run wiki, I guess that we will have to agree to disagree unless we can find a middle ground with the consensus

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    • Pepper Gaming wrote: The person who originally leaked it was Back Door Disney (which is how the leak started). My opinion is that a fan run wiki should be where fans can contribute what they think is right (regardless of h[o]w credible the information is) and I think it's right to keep wikipedia and fun run wiki's (such as this) sep[a]rate from each other.

      As I said I'd agree that these photos aren't credible information on wikipedia since that[']s more of a professional, encyclopedia style wiki and information like that shouldn't be on there. But since this is fan run wiki, I guess that we will have to agree to disagree unless we can find a middle ground with the consensus

      OK, so we do have a source. But Patrick Spikes/BackDoorDisney is still not an official source of information. Not only that, he's gotten in trouble with Disney in the past, so that doesn't help matters. He wasn't permitted to go where he was not allowed to go, and as I said it's still very much likely that whoever took the photos (whether it's him or someone else) were not permitted to take them and share them on social media or other outside sources.

      The best compromise I can go with is that this wiki's article can inform more about the rumors and speculation since Wikipedia doesn't allow for such (and I did leave that kind of info on this wiki's article in my edits), but stop short of declaring it "closed" without an official, truly reliable source. That's the best middle ground I can go with. If we cannot agree to that, then we'll have to let Disney Wiki administration decide for themselves.

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    • I've made some minor changes to what you've said (minus adding the closing date of what I would accept as a middle ground to what you added, if you disagree then we will either have to pitch in and suggest a new middle ground that suits what both of us want or we will just have to agree to disagree. Bearing in mind that I am willing to work with you to think of a good middle ground that suits both our needs but it will need prior discussion and involvement on both sides

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  • Hello WikiaAid,
    Since you've been adding the category "Stitch!" onto articles, please remember that the character articles do not get the general categories for media and franchises in order to keep categories consistent and organized. Because of this, please stop adding "Stitch!" onto the character articles.

    Safe editing,
    The Silver wings of Night (talk) 23:14, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

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  • Hi, welcome to Disney Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Papi Boulevardez page. Please read the DisneyWiki:Do's and Don'ts for how to edit on this wiki before doing any other edits. Also, please be respectful of other users.

    Please leave me a message if I can help with anything!

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