Snow White's prince is usually called "The Prince"; not just "Prince". I think "the" is worth being in the title, so I suggest a move. We're calling him "The Prince" in Disney Princes, and I really think that's what he is called. Snow White is more LFarookhi's territory, so I won't move it myself. --Darsha
- I think you're right. To keep it consistent, should "The" be used in pages for The Queen, The Coachman, The Blue Fairy and so forth?-LFarookhi 01:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think for the most part we should take that as a rule of thumb, yea. The Blue Fairy is always referred to as "The Blue Fairy" so I see that as her name. I think the only reason to deviate from that pattern would be if the character isn't consistently called "The (insert something here)". It's all about what they're referred to as. I can't think of a real example where "the" isn't included in the name, but a made-up example is if there was a character who didn't have a proper name, and was a fox. If people (especially Disney people) referred to him as "Fox" rather than "The Fox", then his article would just be called "Fox". I hope that makes sense, and what do you think? --Darsha
Ferdinand[]
Where did this name come from? At least Queen Grimhilde has the comics as a source --FigmentJedi 23:39, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
Well, now I know, and knowing is half the battle. The other half on this wiki probably being battling LloydHackl --FigmentJedi 17:48, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
Hi! I've done a lot of research on the subject of the Prince's name, probably more than most people have. The rumors tend to basically center around the idea that he was given a name during production, but that it was ultimately dropped, perhaps along with his extended role. The other idea is that the Disney company gave him a name much later on. I wanted to share what I've found.
Charming: This is the only actual name I can find given to the Prince outside of the generic title. He's called this name in this wallpaper from the Blu-Ray version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. He's also referred to as this by old press release documents and some products in Disney's online store. Unfortunately, the name of "Charming" officially belongs to Cinderella's prince now, so we can't call him this.
Ferdinand: This is probably the most commonly claimed name for the Prince. This can be ruled out for the most part. This was where I first saw this claim. At the 1938 Oscars, Shirley Temple mentioned a name "Ferdinand" among the names of Snow White and the Dwarfs. As this post from Tumblr says, however, someone accidentally misinterpeted what she said and thought she was referring to the Prince by that name. Temple was actually referring to a Silly Symphonies character, "Ferdinand the Bull."
The only reason I didn't say I completely rule the name out is because he was referred to as "Ferdinand" on a piece of merchandise in the store on Disney's official UK based site. I didn't get a cap of the original product page, but I was able to get one of the search result page here. The product has since been taken down.
Florian: This name comes from the Anglo-Italian based Web site Disneylicious. They call him by this name on this article. The first time I E-Mailed the site's owner about their source for the name, he replied back with the claim that it was a name given to him during production, but that it was ultimately dropped. He said I could find this in a book about the film's production. Unfortunately, I wasn't given a title and page number. Later correspondence on the matter led to the owner needing to ask a friend of his, an alleged expert on everything Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, about the name. He came back and told me the friend said it was a name Disney used for the Prince when they introduced the Disney Princess line.
Frederick: The only source for this name is a user on Deviant Art, a German immigrant to California. I won't mention his name because I don't want to get in any trouble for publically outing anyone. He draws Disney fan art, and claims to have seen documents and artwork at the Walt Disney Studio Archives that calls the Prince by this name there. He said he wasn't sure if it was a name Walt Disney himself had intended to give the character, or if it was simply one the company considered much later on.
The man claims that if one makes an appointment with the lead historian at the Archives, and goes there, by doing a bit of research, they can find the alledged documents and artwork. Unfortunately, he didn't say exactly where to look there, and my attempts to ask him for his source(s) led to him becoming very angry, defensive, and ultimately putting me on his Block List.
Jonathan: This name was first mentioned on Wikipedia, unsourced as usual. It's since been removed. This is the only other source I can find for this particular name.
Other claimed names have been "Hans," "Stephen," "Wilhelm," and "Valiant," but none have any actual sources provided outside of random claims. The problem with all of these names is that not only are any one of them not consistent, but no one has been able to provide an official document, artwork, video, whatever to prove their particular claims. I even E-Mailed Disney themselves regarding the matter, and they simply came back and said he doesn't have a name in their version.
Until someone can actually prove any of these names or even another one entirely, I personally think we need to be skeptical about any claims of a name. The closest thing to a name he'd have, I think, is whatever he'd be called in the ABC series Once Upon A Time, as it's technically a production of the Disney company and it uses names from the company's film canon. Unfortunately, the character's name, once thought to be "James," turns out to remain unknown. This blog claims the script calls him "Will," so possibly a name of "William." Still, the series doesn't really count as far as Disney Classic film canon goes. At this point, the Prince is nameless and will probably remain so for a long time to come.
JacobKyle 16:00, January 12, 2012 (UTC)