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  • Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

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    • I personally am a fan of both CGi and Traditional 2D animation, and if you've ever bothered to notice some of the 2D films made during the Disney Renissance, they have CGi elements in them. I also like the way Paperman is animated; 2D and CGi co-existing together!!! WHOOOHHH!!!!!!

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    • I agree, there should be more traditional animated films. I like both, but still... I miss the movies that made Disney famous.

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    • The problem with that is that they weren't not making money at the Box office especially after Shrek the movie was released by Dreamworks and Toy story. The last two traditional films, "Home on the range" and Brother Bear did not make money for the company? I haven't seen Paperman.

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    • Antiprincess wrote:
      The problem with that is that they weren't not making money at the Box office especially after Shrek the movie was released by Dreamworks and Toy story. The last two traditional films, "Home on the range" and Brother Bear did not make money for the company? I haven't seen Paperman.

      Don't forget that 20th Century Fox would release their first CGi film Ice Age, making Disney struggle to keep up with competition with other animation studios. This led to the decision of then-CEO Michael Eisner to make the decision that Home on the Range would be their last 2D film. After that, he fired all their 2D animators, scrapped all of their 2D software, and switched the studio to completely CGi, only to find themselves being hired again when Bob Iger became CEO, noting that "a bad movie is a bad movie", regardless of the medium. It should also be noted that the latest two traditionally-animated films produced by WDAS (The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh), dispite being concidered minor box office sucesses, were released theatrically at the "wrong time": The Princess and the Frog was released a week before James Cameron's Avatar (which would hold the Number 1 spot at the Box Office for the next seven weeks), and Winnie the Pooh was released on the same day as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2, which would make poor innocent Pooh Bear get defeated by the Death Eaters at the movies.

      I've heard that you can watch it (Paperman, that is) in FULL on YouTube. 

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.


      According to this little easter egg that I found on the Walt Disney Animation Studios' website, they're holding a 2D animation intern program to recruit more 2D animators this summer!!! (So maybe 2D isn't really dead after all). :-)

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    • I hope so. Poor Pooh.

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

      According to this little easter egg that I found on the Walt Disney Animation Studios' website, they're holding a 2D animation intern program to recruit more 2D animators this summer!!! (So maybe 2D isn't really dead after all). :-)

      Hopefully, that will work.

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      Antiprincess wrote:
      The problem with that is that they weren't not making money at the Box office especially after Shrek the movie was released by Dreamworks and Toy story. The last two traditional films, "Home on the range" and Brother Bear did not make money for the company? I haven't seen Paperman.
      Don't forget that 20th Century Fox would release their first CGi film Ice Age, making Disney struggle to keep up with competition with other animation studios. This led to the decision of then-CEO Michael Eisner to make the decision that Home on the Range would be their last 2D film. After that, he fired all their 2D animators, scrapped all of their 2D software, and switched the studio to completely CGi, only to find themselves being hired again when Bob Iger became CEO, noting that "a bad movie is a bad movie", regardless of the medium.

      It should also be noted that the latest two traditionally-animated films produced by WDAS (The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh), dispite being concidered minor box office sucesses, were released theatrically at the "wrong time": The Princess and the Frog was released a week before James Cameron's Avatar (which would hold the Number 1 spot at the Box Office for the next seven weeks), and Winnie the Pooh was released on the same day as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2, which would make poor innocent Pooh Bear get defeated by the Death Eaters at the movies.

      I've heard that you can watch it (Paperman, that is) in FULL on YouTube. 

      Pooh Bear got WHAT?!

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    • Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.

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    • Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      EpixAndroid wrote:
      Antiprincess wrote:
      The problem with that is that they weren't not making money at the Box office especially after Shrek the movie was released by Dreamworks and Toy story. The last two traditional films, "Home on the range" and Brother Bear did not make money for the company? I haven't seen Paperman.
      Don't forget that 20th Century Fox would release their first CGi film Ice Age, making Disney struggle to keep up with competition with other animation studios. This led to the decision of then-CEO Michael Eisner to make the decision that Home on the Range would be their last 2D film. After that, he fired all their 2D animators, scrapped all of their 2D software, and switched the studio to completely CGi, only to find themselves being hired again when Bob Iger became CEO, noting that "a bad movie is a bad movie", regardless of the medium.

      It should also be noted that the latest two traditionally-animated films produced by WDAS (The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh), dispite being concidered minor box office sucesses, were released theatrically at the "wrong time": The Princess and the Frog was released a week before James Cameron's Avatar (which would hold the Number 1 spot at the Box Office for the next seven weeks), and Winnie the Pooh was released on the same day as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2, which would make poor innocent Pooh Bear get defeated by the Death Eaters at the movies.

      I've heard that you can watch it (Paperman, that is) in FULL on YouTube. 

      Pooh Bear got WHAT?!

      Oh, that was just a metaphor, my dear...

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      EpixAndroid wrote:
      Antiprincess wrote:
      The problem with that is that they weren't not making money at the Box office especially after Shrek the movie was released by Dreamworks and Toy story. The last two traditional films, "Home on the range" and Brother Bear did not make money for the company? I haven't seen Paperman.
      Don't forget that 20th Century Fox would release their first CGi film Ice Age, making Disney struggle to keep up with competition with other animation studios. This led to the decision of then-CEO Michael Eisner to make the decision that Home on the Range would be their last 2D film. After that, he fired all their 2D animators, scrapped all of their 2D software, and switched the studio to completely CGi, only to find themselves being hired again when Bob Iger became CEO, noting that "a bad movie is a bad movie", regardless of the medium.

      It should also be noted that the latest two traditionally-animated films produced by WDAS (The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh), dispite being concidered minor box office sucesses, were released theatrically at the "wrong time": The Princess and the Frog was released a week before James Cameron's Avatar (which would hold the Number 1 spot at the Box Office for the next seven weeks), and Winnie the Pooh was released on the same day as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2, which would make poor innocent Pooh Bear get defeated by the Death Eaters at the movies.

      I've heard that you can watch it (Paperman, that is) in FULL on YouTube. 

      Pooh Bear got WHAT?!
      Oh, that was just a metaphor, my dear...

      Oh...

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    • Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.

      No! Not MARVEL, I tell you! That should be a DisneyToon Studios project, not a WDAS one!!!

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    • Another reason why Disney should make more traditonal animated films, nowadays Disney has been getting confused to be Pixar because of films like Wreck-It Ralph and Frozen.

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Another reason why Disney should make more traditonal animated films, nowadays Disney has been getting confused to be Pixar because of films like Wreck-It Ralph and Frozen.

      Especially if you're a little kid and can't tell between the two.

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Another reason why Disney should make more traditonal animated films, nowadays Disney has been getting confused to be Pixar because of films like Wreck-It Ralph and Frozen.
      Especially if you're a little kid and can't tell between the two.

      Yeah, like that

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    • Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.

      Interesting

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    • Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.

      Ohh! I like anime so this will be interesting.

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    • Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.

      This will be grand, for it will be another great event in Disney History for Big Hero 6 will be the first Disney anime film.

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.
      This will be grand, for it will be another great event in Disney History for Big Hero 6 will be the first Disney anime film.

      Besides the Studio Ghibli films, but technically they were just distributed by Disney in the US. But you know what I mean... 

      I wonder if Disney is planning a sequel to The Princess and the Frog ? It probably won't be canon, but still, there's a chance it'll be traditionally animated.

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.
      This will be grand, for it will be another great event in Disney History for Big Hero 6 will be the first Disney anime film.
      Besides the Studio Ghibli films, but technically they were just distributed by Disney in the US. But you know what I mean... 

      I wonder if Disney is planning a sequel to the Princess and the Frog? It probably won't be canon, but still, there's a chance it'll be traditionally animated.

      Yeah, good

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    • i love you disney

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Jon23812 wrote:
      Big Hero 6 is going to be released November 7, 2014. It's most likely going to be hand-drawn in anime style.
      This will be grand, for it will be another great event in Disney History for Big Hero 6 will be the first Disney anime film.
      Besides the Studio Ghibli films, but technically they were just distributed by Disney in the US. But you know what I mean... 

      I wonder if Disney is planning a sequel to The Princess and the Frog ? It probably won't be canon, but still, there's a chance it'll be traditionally animated.

      Nah, John Lasseter wouldn't let anybody get away with that

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    • hello!!!!!

      i love you disney our re reall? You know my little pony friendship is magic??????

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    • I do hope the new Mickey Mouse movie would be made in traditional hand-drawn animation. The CGI magic only works for Mickey and his friends in Mickey's PhilharMagic, Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Mickey's Mousekersize, Minnie's Bow-Toons and Donald in the Mickey Mouse Works short, "Computer.don".

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    • LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      I do hope the new Mickey Mouse movie would be made in traditional hand-drawn animation. The CGI magic only works for Mickey and his friends in Mickey's PhilharMagic, Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Mickey's Mousekersize, Minnie's Bow-Toons and Donald in the Mickey Mouse Works short, "Computer.don".

      Ditto

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    • What do you mean, "ditto"? I'm just making an opinion that the new Mickey Mouse movie should be in hand drawn animation like the way he and his friends normally are. CGI kind of ruin it for Mickey.

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    • Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]

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    • Of course. That's why I'm hoping that the new Mickey Mouse movie shall have the use of traditional animation in it.

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    • LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      What do you mean, "ditto"? I'm just making an opinion that the new Mickey Mouse movie should be in hand drawn animation like the way he and his friends normally are. CGI kind of ruin it for Mickey.

      Meaning agree

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    • Oh, I see.

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    • These are just suggestions:

      • Disney could make an adaptation of the recently released book The Wolf Princess in traditional hand drawn animation.
      • They could even resume production on Princess Academy.
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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]

      Hurah to Ron Clements and John Musker again, since between Home on the Range and the Princess and the Frog.

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    • Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      These are just suggestions:
      • Disney could make an adaptation of the recently released book The Wolf Princess in traditional hand drawn animation.
      • They could even resume production on Princess Academy.

      Yeah Maybe for Wolf Princess and Hopefully for Princess Academy

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]
      Hurah to Ron Clements and John Musker again, since between Home on the Range and the Princess and the Frog.

      For it seems they never turn their backs on traditional hand drawn animation

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]

      Then that means Treasure Planet 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =D

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    • Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]
      Then that means Treasure Planet 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =D

      I don't think so

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    • Great news, there's even more hope that traditional animation won't be extinct in Disney, thanks to the new theatrical short, Get a Horse.

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]
      Then that means Treasure Planet 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =D
      I don't think so

      Dang it... :(

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]

      I looked at it and the article is from 2012, so it's kinda old and doesn't really confirm anything. The newer articles kinda confirm 2D might be dying: http://www.rotoscopers.com/tag/2d-animation/

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Besides, there's hoper for traditional animation being in Disney again, all thanks to again with the Princess and the Frog, Ron Clements and John Musker. As proven in this article: [[1]]
      I looked at it and the article is from 2012, so it's kinda old and doesn't really confirm anything. The newer articles kinda confirm 2D might be dying: http://www.rotoscopers.com/tag/2d-animation/

      So the news flash I brought is a year old, so the recent one you brought says 2D animation might be dying, so what? The one I brought would be considered recent, if it was that old it would be like 4 years. No one knows for sure what medium it will be for the film is not in development yet. All we can do is hope. Besides there might still some hope all thanks to the shorts, Paperman and Get a Horse!.

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    • They need to do Dracula. Not necassarily a kid's film, but have you even read a Grimm fairy tale?

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      They need to do Dracula. Not necassarily a kid's film, but have you even read a Grimm fairy tale?

      What made you say that?

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    • Listen Dyako Arif, this is a thread dicussing on Disney making more traditional animated films, not just CGI.

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    • Dyako Arif
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      again the same as the last
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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      They need to do Dracula. Not necassarily a kid's film, but have you even read a Grimm fairy tale?
      What made you say that?

      Well, I'd like to see a Disney version of Dracula. I think that with the content they had near the end of Rapunzel that it wouldn't be that much of a step forward. Besides, many kid-oriented cartoons from companies outside of Disney do the actual fairy tales with extremely suggestive material. I think it'll be a fun challenge if Disney chooses a story like Dracula. Especially in traditional animation.

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      They need to do Dracula. Not necassarily a kid's film, but have you even read a Grimm fairy tale?
      What made you say that?
      Well, I'd like to see a Disney version of Dracula. I think that with the content they had near the end of Rapunzel that it wouldn't be that much of a step forward. Besides, many kid-oriented cartoons from companies outside of Disney do the actual fairy tales with extremely suggestive material. I think it'll be a fun challenge if Disney chooses a story like Dracula. Especially in traditional animation.

      Dracula is too scary for Disney, like have you seen the Gary Oldman version of Dracula? And what you said about films made by outside studios makes it sound like Disney is old news or yesterday's newspapers, saying nobody in the world wants Disney anymore.

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    • Of course people like Disney, but I'd like to see some darker stories turned light again. You know, like Cinderella, Pinocchio, Snow White, Rapunzel, The Snow Queen, Sleeping Beauty, etc. all were.

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    • Oh you mean like making dark original written ways get brightly edited by the special Disney touch like Walt did?

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    • Dyako Arif wrote:
      I think they should make more CGI animated films.Tangled and Frozen are soooo good and are my favaroute films.A lot of people say that they are for kids and made for one gender specificly but im 14 and a boy ad love them.I think they should make more films like these.

      Not really a suggestion when it's already happening... they are already making a lot of CGI films, obviously, and they're going to make more in the future. But we're hoping they'll bring back 2D animation for at least some of the future films. Seriously, this thread wasn't titled "Should Disney make more traditionally animated films or more CGI animated films?" since the later is already happening a lot, duh...

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Oh you mean like making dark original written ways get brightly edited by the special Disney touch like Walt did?

      Exactly.

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    • Disney should make a hand-drawn animated adaptation of "Goldilocks and the Three Bears".

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    • I WISH there were more traditonal 2D classics!

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Oh you mean like making dark original written ways get brightly edited by the special Disney touch like Walt did?
      Exactly.

      Oh

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    • Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      Disney should make a hand-drawn animated adaptation of "Goldilocks and the Three Bears".

      Sounds great

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    • Site Looker wrote:
      I WISH there were more traditonal 2D classics!

      Quite right

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    • Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      Disney should make a hand-drawn animated adaptation of "Goldilocks and the Three Bears".

      I'm not sure if that would work as a movie. A 5-10 minute short maybe, but not a 70-90 minute movie.

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    • Riku Replica's Princess wrote:
      Disney should make a hand-drawn animated adaptation of "Goldilocks and the Three Bears".

      Disney tried doing it as a  cartoon in the early years of the Disney Studios although they never really accomplished it due to problems. Although now it won't be so bad maybe.

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    • If Disney is going to do any 2D films, one I would really like to see is a movie of the TV series Darkwing Duck. Although if that is to be successful, the popularity of the character and the show needs to come back. Another one is a film of Mickey Mouse since I think there needs to be a film of him because in past theatrical films, he isn't involved in the movies he's involved in with completely (although I can't really blame that on Fun and Fancy Free)

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    • Mickey798 wrote:
      If Disney is going to do any 2D films, one I would really like to see is a movie of the TV series Darkwing Duck. Although if that is to be successful, the popularity of the character and the show needs to come back. Another one is a film of Mickey Mouse since I think there needs to be a film of him because in past theatrical films, he isn't involved in the movies he's involved in with completely (although I can't really blame that on Fun and Fancy Free)

      True for I like to see Basil of Baker Street looking for him

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Mickey798 wrote:
      If Disney is going to do any 2D films, one I would really like to see is a movie of the TV series Darkwing Duck. Although if that is to be successful, the popularity of the character and the show needs to come back. Another one is a film of Mickey Mouse since I think there needs to be a film of him because in past theatrical films, he isn't involved in the movies he's involved in with completely (although I can't really blame that on Fun and Fancy Free)
      True for I like to see Basil of Baker Street looking for him


      Especially when it comes to a Big Cartoon Database rumor that the film was supposed to be called The Search for Mickey Mouse (or In Search of Mickey). The plot of the rumored movie is that Mickey was kidnapped and Minnie hired Basil of Baker Street to find him and that one character from every Disney film is supposed to make an appearance in the film, including Peter Pan, Fiddler Pig, Fife Pig, Robin Hood, Alice, Aladdin and Elliot the Dragon. Although the film is supposed to be the fiftieth movie in the Disney Animated Features canon, the honor belongs to Tangled.

      In 2002, production on an all new Disney animated feature began at Disney's Animation Studio in Florida called The Search for Mickey Mouse. The film is said to surround Mickey (played by the now late Wayne Allwine) who gets "Mouse-Knapped", and Minnie Mouse (Russi Taylor) hires Basil of Baker Street (fresh from the 1986 animated film The Great Mouse Detective) to help find him. Now Minnie, Basil, Donald Duck (Tony Anselmo), and Goofy (Bill Farmer) have to travel the globe to find Mickey and in a Roger Rabbit manner, single handedly encounter one character from every Disney Animated Movie to exist at the time. Several of those characters would include Alice (Kathryn Beaumont) from Alice in Wonderland, Aladdin (Scott Weinger), and Peter Pan (Blayne Weaver). That same year, no new information on the film had been revealed, except for the fact that there was speculation that the film would be done in CGI featuring a CGI Mickey that had been used in test footage for an upcoming Direct to DVD project that was slated to be released in 2004, and was speculated to be The Search for Mickey Mouse, by having the same characters and voice actors as mentioned before. However many were proved wrong as instead it was used for a CGI film called Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas and for the Walt Disney World Attraction, Mickey's Philarmagic. Many believed the project to be cancelled until one day in 2005. When WDW Radio (a podcast website) reported that the film would be released in 2012 and would be Walt Disney Animation Studio's 50th Animated Feature, bringing new hope back into the project. However, a little deja vu occured when Tangled became the studio's 50th Animated Feature in 2010. And again when 2012 passed by. Now it is currently unknown if the project will ever continue production as new information on the film is still unknown. There is also no footage, or any screenshots of the film at all.

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    • The film has proudly been another shelved project by WDAS! All these shelved films make me wish I was working for Disney's Animation Reseach Library (ARL) right now!!!

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      The film has proudly been another shelved project by WDAS! All these shelved films make me wish I was working for Disney's Animation Reseach Library (ARL) right now!!!

      Yeah, like I know one shelved project, Where the Wild Things Are.

      Where The Wild Things Are - Early DISNEY CG Animation Test

      Where The Wild Things Are - Early DISNEY CG Animation Test

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    • ILoveCandace
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      Rude behavior.
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    • Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.

      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 


      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.

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    • Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.

      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc

      I'd sooner want to spit on those movies than ever accept them as true Disney movies. That's my message to those stupid execs who want to make me put up with all this. If they want to force CGI down my throat or try to make me "give up" on seeing any more 2D movies, then I'm not going to embrace those movies like the rest of you people. I'm going to say "Screw you!" to them and their films.

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    • Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      I'd sooner want to spit on those movies than ever accept them as true Disney movies. That's my message to those stupid execs who want to make me put up with all this. If they want to force CGI down my throat or try to make me "give up" on seeing any more 2D movies, then I'm not going to embrace those movies like the rest of you people. I'm going to say "Screw you!" to them and their films.

      Whoa! Looks like we have a heated argument here! Break it up you two. 

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    • Well, I feel that almost all of WDAS's CGi movies look almost the same to me. Now, taken granted we have Elsa's ice snd snow, and Rapunzel's healing hair, but there's no real diversity of making the character's faces and the backgrounds look different. I mean, you know how the artists used the CAPS software and hardware to make the animation look different? Like the fact that Mulan looks like a Chinese ink-and-brush painting, or the oil canvas that the animators used in Tarzan? Where's the curiosity and the exploration of wanting something to look different?

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      Well, I feel that almost all of WDAS's CGi movies look almost the same to me. Now, taken granted we have Elsa's ice snd snow, and Rapunzel's healing hair, but there's no real diversity of making the character's faces and the backgrounds look different. I mean, you know how the artists used the CAPS software and hardware to make the animation look different? Like the fact that Mulan looks like a Chinese ink-and-brush painting, or the oil canvas that the animators used in Tarzan? Where's the curiosity and the exploration of wanting something to look different?


      Just like how Planes looks exactly like a Pixar movie despite Pixar not doing it, while Buzz Lightyear of Star Command looks like an actual Disney spin-off of a Pixar movie.

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

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    • Now there might be some hope that traditional animation in Disney films isn't officially gone, all thanks to Tinker Bell in Saving Mr. Banks

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!

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    • Hey, just wanted to say, Pocohantas wasn't subpar. It's a great film, and highly underrated. The ending wasn't even that typical of a princess film, sort of like Mulan *spoiler*The two romantic interests weren't together forever and there wasn't a complete "happy ever after" ending*spoiler*. And I mean, have you even seen the animation and heard the music from that movie? The scene where Pocahontas and John Smith first meet has, in my opinion, some of the best animation in a 90's Rennaisance film. In that scene and others, they look 50% like real people, and the other 50% like hand drawn animation some people worked really hard on to craft. And the song "Colors of the Wind" has one of the best messages in a Disney song, not to mention the inspiring melody and music and the great vocals by Judy Kuhn.

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!

      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?

      As a matter of fact that's how many media studios are like these days

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?
      As a matter of fact that's how many media studios are like these days

      Yeah. I mean, Dreamworks did stop-motion before CGI.

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?
      As a matter of fact that's how many media studios are like these days
      Yeah. I mean, Dreamworks did stop-motion before CGI.

      Oh really, when? And in what movie?

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Hey, just wanted to say, Pocohantas wasn't subpar. It's a great film, and highly underrated. The ending wasn't even that typical of a princess film, sort of like Mulan *spoiler*The two romantic interests weren't together forever and there wasn't a complete "happy ever after" ending*spoiler*. And I mean, have you even seen the animation and heard the music from that movie? The scene where Pocahontas and John Smith first meet has, in my opinion, some of the best animation in a 90's Rennaisance film. In that scene and others, they look 50% like real people, and the other 50% like hand drawn animation some people worked really hard on to craft. And the song "Colors of the Wind" has one of the best messages in a Disney song, not to mention the inspiring melody and music and the great vocals by Judy Kuhn.

      I will respect your opinion, but I feel Pocahontas is one of Disney's weaker films and probably started the decline of Disney animation. The film tries so hard to be this epic adult story, and yet it comes across as very juvenille. Case in point, the villain is very simplistic and one-note with an even moreso motivation; he's not even as entertaining as Disney's other villains. A more interesting film would have the prejudice between the settlers and natives as the source of conflict, rather than some generic "good vs. evil" story. The main characters and their romance is rather dull, but I will give props to the writers for seperating them in the end. I will also say the animation is goregous with great character animation and just beautiful colors. The songs are alright, but most of it has to do with Alan Menkan's orchestration. The comic relief, while really clashing with the "serious" tone of the movie, are actually the most entertaining aspects of the movie. Overall, the film isn't terrible, but it's certainlly a pretentious and boring one. Disney really wanted this to get a Best Picture nom like Beauty and the Beast and it really shows that this is just Oscar bait. Like I said, this is the snowflake that started the avalanche of Disney animation. Not even the great animation and a lovely score can save this. But, that's just my opinion.

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Hey, just wanted to say, Pocohantas wasn't subpar. It's a great film, and highly underrated. The ending wasn't even that typical of a princess film, sort of like Mulan *spoiler*The two romantic interests weren't together forever and there wasn't a complete "happy ever after" ending*spoiler*. And I mean, have you even seen the animation and heard the music from that movie? The scene where Pocahontas and John Smith first meet has, in my opinion, some of the best animation in a 90's Rennaisance film. In that scene and others, they look 50% like real people, and the other 50% like hand drawn animation some people worked really hard on to craft. And the song "Colors of the Wind" has one of the best messages in a Disney song, not to mention the inspiring melody and music and the great vocals by Judy Kuhn.
      I will respect your opinion, but I feel Pocahontas is one of Disney's weaker films and probably started the decline of Disney animation. The film tries so hard to be this epic adult story, and yet it comes across as very juvenille. Case in point, the villain is very simplistic and one-note with an even moreso motivation; he's not even as entertaining as Disney's other villains. A more interesting film would have the prejudice between the settlers and natives as the source of conflict, rather than some generic "good vs. evil" story. The main characters and their romance is rather dull, but I will give props to the writers for seperating them in the end. I will also say the animation is goregous with great character animation and just beautiful colors. The songs are alright, but most of it has to do with Alan Menkan's orchestration. The comic relief, while really clashing with the "serious" tone of the movie, are actually the most entertaining aspects of the movie. Overall, the film isn't terrible, but it's certainlly a pretentious and boring one. Disney really wanted this to get a Best Picture nom like Beauty and the Beast and it really shows that this is just Oscar bait. Like I said, this is the snowflake that started the avalanche of Disney animation. Not even the great animation and a lovely score can save this. But, that's just my opinion.

      Gees, everybody's a critic

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Hey, just wanted to say, Pocohantas wasn't subpar. It's a great film, and highly underrated. The ending wasn't even that typical of a princess film, sort of like Mulan *spoiler*The two romantic interests weren't together forever and there wasn't a complete "happy ever after" ending*spoiler*. And I mean, have you even seen the animation and heard the music from that movie? The scene where Pocahontas and John Smith first meet has, in my opinion, some of the best animation in a 90's Rennaisance film. In that scene and others, they look 50% like real people, and the other 50% like hand drawn animation some people worked really hard on to craft. And the song "Colors of the Wind" has one of the best messages in a Disney song, not to mention the inspiring melody and music and the great vocals by Judy Kuhn.
      I will respect your opinion, but I feel Pocahontas is one of Disney's weaker films and probably started the decline of Disney animation. The film tries so hard to be this epic adult story, and yet it comes across as very juvenille. Case in point, the villain is very simplistic and one-note with an even moreso motivation; he's not even as entertaining as Disney's other villains. A more interesting film would have the prejudice between the settlers and natives as the source of conflict, rather than some generic "good vs. evil" story. The main characters and their romance is rather dull, but I will give props to the writers for seperating them in the end. I will also say the animation is goregous with great character animation and just beautiful colors. The songs are alright, but most of it has to do with Alan Menkan's orchestration. The comic relief, while really clashing with the "serious" tone of the movie, are actually the most entertaining aspects of the movie. Overall, the film isn't terrible, but it's certainlly a pretentious and boring one. Disney really wanted this to get a Best Picture nom like Beauty and the Beast and it really shows that this is just Oscar bait. Like I said, this is the snowflake that started the avalanche of Disney animation. Not even the great animation and a lovely score can save this. But, that's just my opinion.
      Gees, everybody's a critic

      I know, right?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?
      As a matter of fact that's how many media studios are like these days
      Yeah. I mean, Dreamworks did stop-motion before CGI.
      Oh really, when? And in what movie?

      Well, there were aactually three films. Two of them were animated before they advanced to stop-motion. The animated ones were Balto and Prince of Egypt while the stop-motion one was co-produced with a British animation company and called Chicken Run.

      As you can see, Disney is very late to be changing. And that's a good thing.

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?
      As a matter of fact that's how many media studios are like these days
      Yeah. I mean, Dreamworks did stop-motion before CGI.
      Oh really, when? And in what movie?
      Well, there were aactually three films. Two of them were animated before they advanced to stop-motion. The animated ones were Balto and Prince of Egypt while the stop-motion one was co-produced with a British animation company and called Chicken Run.

      As you can see, Disney is very late to be changing. And that's a good thing.

      Yes, very good

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Man, this is so upsetting that Disney is ignoring 2D hand drawn animation (exception for hand drawn shorts). Disney forgot the respects of traditional animation and Walt Disney will be very disappointed. This is have nothing to do with Michael Eisner, just in case you are wondering. 

      Well, said

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?

      Actually, a better comparison would've been talking pictures were starting to overshadow silent films during the 1920s-30s, and how color films began to overshadow black-and-white movies during the 30s-40s. Just like how CG films are beginning to overshadow 2D animated films nowadays. However, 2D films can still do well; studios just can't phone in the marketing and something new and innovative has to be done with it. Also, suggesting that there be new things isn't at all "mean." Like Walt said, "Keep moving forward."

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    • Re: TsWade, Walt Disney Jr., stop worrying about 2D animation! They are not ignoring it, so knock it off! >:(

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote: Hey, just wanted to say, Pocohantas wasn't subpar. It's a great film, and highly underrated. The ending wasn't even that typical of a princess film, sort of like Mulan *spoiler*The two romantic interests weren't together forever and there wasn't a complete "happy ever after" ending*spoiler*. And I mean, have you even seen the animation and heard the music from that movie? The scene where Pocahontas and John Smith first meet has, in my opinion, some of the best animation in a 90's Rennaisance film. In that scene and others, they look 50% like real people, and the other 50% like hand drawn animation some people worked really hard on to craft. And the song "Colors of the Wind" has one of the best messages in a Disney song, not to mention the inspiring melody and music and the great vocals by Judy Kuhn.

      I fully agree.

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?
      Actually, a better comparison would've been talking pictures were starting to overshadow silent films during the 1920s-30s, and how color films began to overshadow black-and-white movies during the 30s-40s. Just like how CG films are beginning to overshadow 2D animated films nowadays. However, 2D films can still do well; studios just can't phone in the marketing and something new and innovative has to be done with it. Also, suggesting that there be new things isn't at all "mean." Like Walt said, "Keep moving forward."
      I get that. But when someone mention executives at Disney on the 2D, made me think about that guy with the glasses in this episode. And you're right, 2D is still doing well. As proven in this. 
      Traditional 2D Animation Is Thriving In Europe

      Traditional 2D Animation Is Thriving In Europe

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.


      Look what I found.

      Disney-studios
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    • XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

      Look what I found.

      Disney-studios

      WOW!

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    • XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

      Look what I found.

      Disney-studios

      Question, not trying to be mean but what does this has to do about this thread?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

      Look what I found.
      Disney-studios
      Question, not trying to be mean but what does this has to do about this thread?


      Yeah, XavienAntoniofan. I mean, we're talking about the fate of Disney's traditional animated films, not the Walt Disney Studios itself.

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    • Duke Remington wrote:
      Re: TsWade, Walt Disney Jr., stop worrying about 2D animation! They are not ignoring it, so knock it off! >:(

      We can't help it. We just want Disney todo another 2D hand drawn animated movie.

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    • @Nick102 How dare you hate on CGI! >:( There is nothing wrong with them.

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    • I just hope the new CEO of Disney will let John Lasseter to do hand drawn animation and maybe fire those greedy satanic executives.
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    • TsWade2 wrote:


      I just hope the new CEO of Disney will let John Lasseter to do hand drawn animation and maybe fire those greedy satanic executives.

      Knock off that attitude, TsWade2, and stop being such an accusatory, immature cry-baby! Behaving like that does not help or solve problems.

      In addition, using demeaning terms like "greedy satanic executives" is also extremely immature and doesn't help or solve anything. Besides, none of Disney's current executives are greedy or satanic.

      And as much as we would like 2D films to continue being churned out by Disney, they are not obligated to make 2D films, so don't be forcing them to do them--there's always a chance that they might end up making a half-@$$ed 2D film.

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    • That's not nice calling someone a immature cry baby!, you have to be carfull for what you say on the wiki Duke. It could hurt someones feeling. I'm just telling you that just to keep you safe, that's all. 

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    • Kaneandbigshow2 wrote:
      That's not nice calling someone a immature cry baby! He's just giving his own opinion for crying out loud, please leave him alone Duke.

      I'm with Kaneandbigshow2

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    • Duke Remington wrote:

      TsWade2 wrote:


      I just hope the new CEO of Disney will let John Lasseter to do hand drawn animation and maybe fire those greedy satanic executives.

      Knock off that attitude, TsWade2, and stop being such an accusatory, immature cry-baby! Behaving like that does not help or solve problems.

      In addition, using demeaning terms like "greedy satanic executives" is also extremely immature and doesn't help or solve anything. Besides, none of Disney's current executives are greedy or satanic.

      And as much as we would like 2D films to continue being churned out by Disney, they are not obligated to make 2D films, so don't be forcing them to do them--there's always a chance that they might end up making a half-@$$ed 2D film.

      Duke Remington, you knock it off, this is serious considering the fact the last 2D animated film was made in 2011 and feature length motion pictures are the only ones in Disney not having tradtional animation

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Nick102 wrote:
      Personally I think Disney should only make 2D movies and that all this CGI stuff they're doing should go rot somewhere.
      I love how you completely disregard the quality of the films and say they should rot just because they're CG. I may want traditional animation to return, but I'm more concerned about the quality of the films they make. 

      And I'm more concerned about getting 2D animation back over the quality of CGI movies that they shouldn't be making in the first place. It should not be their priority to put so much work into more CG movies when there's clearly too many of them out there as it is, and they practically own another studio that already does those kind of movies. It should not be their priority to try and push the quality of 2D animation into CGI when they could just be doing real 2D animation to begin with (though the style of Paperman can certainly make up for it). We keep having to lose 2D animation at Disney because they keep choosing CGI over 2D constantly, and show no real responsibility for bringing 2D movies back. My one priority for Disney, above all else, is to bring back 2D animation.
      Here's the thing: the good folk at Walt Disney Animation Studios would like to see 2D animation return. Unfortunately, the executives have the final say when it comes to what movies are made, as well as when they're released and how they're marketed. Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh just didn't make enough to satisfy the execs, and now WDAS has to make CG films to keep the execs happy and stay afloat. Fortunately, they know that story is what really matters in a film, not just the way it's animated. They still try to make well-written and entertaining movies that everybody will enjoy. How dare you dismiss their hard work on movies such as Bolt, Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, and Frozen just because they're CG and not 2D. That's just as bad as people dismissing Princess & The Frog just because it's 2D. CG is just as much an art form as 2D and stop-motion. I would love for Disney to return to making 2D films, and I'm sure John Lasseter and the animators would love to see it return to. But they can't combat the executives who have the misguided notion that 2D animation is dead and not profitable (it can be, it just has to be marketed well and actually be a good movie). While Disney should bring 2D animated films, that doesn't mean their CG fare should be overlooked. At least they're still making animated films and pushing for quality and creativity in their works, even if it is in a style that's different than their normal style; and that is what matters most. I'd rather see a CG film with a good story and characters (Wreck-It Ralph) than a 2D film with subpar story and characters (Pocahontas). Plus, at their CG animation is actually good and doesn't look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_RrDi-lXc
      Hey this reminds me of this: 
      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      Phineas And Ferb Toy To The World

      What does that have to do with anything?!
      I'm glad you ask, the climbing toys in that episode are like the animated films at Disney, and the mean man with the glasses who sujested there should be a new toy is like the executives at Disney. Get the point?
      Actually, a better comparison would've been talking pictures were starting to overshadow silent films during the 1920s-30s, and how color films began to overshadow black-and-white movies during the 30s-40s. Just like how CG films are beginning to overshadow 2D animated films nowadays. However, 2D films can still do well; studios just can't phone in the marketing and something new and innovative has to be done with it. Also, suggesting that there be new things isn't at all "mean." Like Walt said, "Keep moving forward."
      I get that. But when someone mention executives at Disney on the 2D, made me think about that guy with the glasses in this episode. And you're right, 2D is still doing well. As proven in this. 
      Traditional 2D Animation Is Thriving In Europe

      Traditional 2D Animation Is Thriving In Europe

      Do any of you see that video with the doctor, that video shows the traditional animation is still being watched around the world. Traditional animated films are still being made by foriegn countries, so why can't America?

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    • Hi Walt Disney Jr., don't worry I'm just trying to let Duke know that he needs to be carful for what he say's on wiki's. 

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    • Kaneandbigshow2 wrote:
      Hi Walt Disney Jr., don't worry I'm just trying to let Duke know that he needs to be carful for what he say's on wiki's. 

      OK

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    • Duke Remington wrote:

      TsWade2 wrote:


      I just hope the new CEO of Disney will let John Lasseter to do hand drawn animation and maybe fire those greedy satanic executives.
      Knock off that attitude, TsWade2, and stop being such an accusatory, immature cry-baby! Behaving like that does not help or solve problems.

      In addition, using demeaning terms like "greedy satanic executives" is also extremely immature and doesn't help or solve anything. Besides, none of Disney's current executives are greedy or satanic.

      And as much as we would like 2D films to continue being churned out by Disney, they are not obligated to make 2D films, so don't be forcing them to do them--there's always a chance that they might end up making a half-@$$ed 2D film.

      How dare you! I just want Disney to do another hand drawn animation and you're so mean to me. Now I'm going to cry.

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    • What about Pixar developing this?

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:
      What about Pixar developing this?

      Yeah maybe

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    • LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

      Look what I found.
      Disney-studios
      Question, not trying to be mean but what does this has to do about this thread?

      Yeah, XavienAntoniofan. I mean, we're talking about the fate of Disney's traditional animated films, not the Walt Disney Studios itself.

      Hey! That's the Team Disney Building!

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    •  It seems to me that people were so fickle with hand drawn and stop motion animation, because they're so overly-obsessed with CGI which is totally sad and a sheer bribery. Even if it's not a bribery.
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    • I certainly wish they would make more classics in 2D again!  I'm all right with CGI being used for special effects, but not for the characters and the entire film!  I feel I would have liked 'Tangled' a lot more if it wasn't all CGI.

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    • I just hope that they still mix the making of movies so that you still see 2d animation and cgi

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    • Site Looker wrote:
      I certainly wish they would make more classics in 2D again!  I'm all right with CGI being used for special effects, but not for the characters and the entire film!  I feel I would have liked 'Tangled' a lot more if it wasn't all CGI.

      Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind if they made most non-cannonical films in CGI but at least the canon films should be at least partially 2D, if not full on 2D. It would be kinda cool if they had a film that was half 2D and half CGI, like for instance when Dorothy landed in Oz in The Wizard of Oz and everything suddenly became technocolor, or like the whole effect of live-action/animation combo films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Mary Poppins and Song of The South. Not particually like Paperman, but like where the mediums are separate and not completely mixed into one thing.

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Site Looker wrote:
      I certainly wish they would make more classics in 2D again!  I'm all right with CGI being used for special effects, but not for the characters and the entire film!  I feel I would have liked 'Tangled' a lot more if it wasn't all CGI.
      Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind if they made most non-cannonical films in CGI but at least the canon films should be at least partially 2D, if not full on 2D. It would be kinda cool if they had a film that was half 2D and half CGI, like for instance when Dorothy landed in Oz in The Wizard of Oz and everything suddenly became technocolor, or like the whole effect of live-action/animation combo films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Mary Poppins and Song of The South. Not particually like Paperman, but like where the mediums are separate and not completely mixed into one thing.

      Pretty sure they did that with Enchanted.

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Site Looker wrote:
      I certainly wish they would make more classics in 2D again!  I'm all right with CGI being used for special effects, but not for the characters and the entire film!  I feel I would have liked 'Tangled' a lot more if it wasn't all CGI.
      Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind if they made most non-cannonical films in CGI but at least the canon films should be at least partially 2D, if not full on 2D. It would be kinda cool if they had a film that was half 2D and half CGI, like for instance when Dorothy landed in Oz in The Wizard of Oz and everything suddenly became technocolor, or like the whole effect of live-action/animation combo films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Mary Poppins and Song of The South. Not particually like Paperman, but like where the mediums are separate and not completely mixed into one thing.
      Pretty sure they did that with Enchanted.

      Oh yeah, forgot about that. But why not do it again, but in a different way?

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Site Looker wrote:
      I certainly wish they would make more classics in 2D again!  I'm all right with CGI being used for special effects, but not for the characters and the entire film!  I feel I would have liked 'Tangled' a lot more if it wasn't all CGI.
      Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind if they made most non-cannonical films in CGI but at least the canon films should be at least partially 2D, if not full on 2D. It would be kinda cool if they had a film that was half 2D and half CGI, like for instance when Dorothy landed in Oz in The Wizard of Oz and everything suddenly became technocolor, or like the whole effect of live-action/animation combo films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Mary Poppins and Song of The South. Not particually like Paperman, but like where the mediums are separate and not completely mixed into one thing.
      Pretty sure they did that with Enchanted.
      Oh yeah, forgot about that. But why not do it again, but in a different way?

      Hm... Interesting. Maybe they could try CGI and live-action with the failed Roger Rabiit sequel?

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    • Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Popsfootloose10169 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Site Looker wrote:
      I certainly wish they would make more classics in 2D again!  I'm all right with CGI being used for special effects, but not for the characters and the entire film!  I feel I would have liked 'Tangled' a lot more if it wasn't all CGI.
      Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't mind if they made most non-cannonical films in CGI but at least the canon films should be at least partially 2D, if not full on 2D. It would be kinda cool if they had a film that was half 2D and half CGI, like for instance when Dorothy landed in Oz in The Wizard of Oz and everything suddenly became technocolor, or like the whole effect of live-action/animation combo films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Mary Poppins and Song of The South. Not particually like Paperman, but like where the mediums are separate and not completely mixed into one thing.
      Pretty sure they did that with Enchanted.
      Oh yeah, forgot about that. But why not do it again, but in a different way?
      Hm... Interesting. Maybe they could try CGI and live-action with the failed Roger Rabbit sequel?

      Well, what I was thinking was that everything in one scene was CGi , and then suddenly, WHOOOSH! Traditional animation in the next!

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    • Wait what! there is a roger rabbit sequel?!

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    • The Traditional animation ought to help Walt Disney be remembered as much of CGI does by feeling: 
      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Duke Remington wrote:

      TsWade2 wrote:


      I just hope the new CEO of Disney will let John Lasseter to do hand drawn animation and maybe fire those greedy satanic executives.
      Knock off that attitude, TsWade2, and stop being such an accusatory, immature cry-baby! Behaving like that does not help or solve problems.

      In addition, using demeaning terms like "greedy satanic executives" is also extremely immature and doesn't help or solve anything. Besides, none of Disney's current executives are greedy or satanic.

      And as much as we would like 2D films to continue being churned out by Disney, they are not obligated to make 2D films, so don't be forcing them to do them--there's always a chance that they might end up making a half-@$$ed 2D film.

      How dare you! I just want Disney to do another hand drawn animation and you're so mean to me. Now I'm going to cry.

      Remington, now look what you've done, you hurt poor TsWade2's feelings, don't you have any SHAME!?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      The Traditional animation ought to help Walt Disney be remembered as much of CGI does by feeling: 
      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2


      I like song musical but An American Tail not is Disney.

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    • XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      The Traditional animation ought to help Walt Disney be remembered as much of CGI does by feeling: 
      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2


      I like song musical but An American Tail not is Disney.

      I know An American Tail isn't Disney but did you get the point of the video like in the ending with the help of the song?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      The Traditional animation ought to help Walt Disney be remembered as much of CGI does by feeling: 
      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      I saw that video. It was inspiring. It's too bad Disney can't see it.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      The Traditional animation ought to help Walt Disney be remembered as much of CGI does by feeling: 
      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      Walt Disney & Mickey Mouse- Somewhere Out There, An American Tail-2

      I saw that video. It was inspiring. It's too bad Disney can't see it.

      True, ture

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    • Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?

      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney

      I already sign it. And I still think it's unfair.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      I already sign it. And I still think it's unfair.

      I get it. I get it.

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      I already sign it. And I still think it's unfair.
      I get it. I get it.

      Sorry, I was just disappointed. That's all.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      I already sign it. And I still think it's unfair.
      I get it. I get it.
      Sorry, I was just disappointed. That's all.

      Quite all right

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney

      Do those signatures really work with Disney? I haven't heard of any of them working so far.

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      Do those signatures really work with Disney? I haven't heard of any of them working so far.

      It does like there was peitition in Change.org to help bring back the pictures in disneysreencaps.com and after it was completly signed all of the pictures came back

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      Do those signatures really work with Disney? I haven't heard of any of them working so far.
      It does like there was peitition in Change.org to help bring back the pictures in disneysreencaps.com and after it was completly signed all of the pictures came back

      I know that, but do they work with something big like entire Disney movies and other big company parts (like theme parks, tv shows, video games, stage shows etc)?

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      Do those signatures really work with Disney? I haven't heard of any of them working so far.
      It does like there was peitition in Change.org to help bring back the pictures in disneysreencaps.com and after it was completly signed all of the pictures came back
      I know that, but do they work with something big like entire Disney movies and other big company parts (like theme parks, tv shows, video games, stage shows etc)?

      Oh come now, please stop worrying Change.org has never failed on great companies, like for the one to have Sym-Bionic Titan go back on air, the signatures are going off like pancakes

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Bad news! Bob Iger announce that there are still no plans to do handdrawn animated features. That Bob Iger is such a coward and a cheapskate. Disney still has trust issues with hand drawn animation. It's not fair. And the cost of hand drawn animation should of been lower. Also, Bob Iger is going to stay as CEO of Disney for many years. When will Bob Iger give hand drawn animation a chance? Or has he become a hand drawn killer for his own greedy self?
      First of all, please don't harsh on Iger, we got to have have that there is a good leader in Disney because of Eisner doing things like getting rid of Katzenburg, this would like not offending Obama for we got to have hope that we have a good president not like Bush for sending us to war in Iraq. And second, don't despair: all of you just sign this, I did: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die, once he sees all of the signatures needed, we will get traditional animation back to Disney
      Do those signatures really work with Disney? I haven't heard of any of them working so far.
      It does like there was peitition in Change.org to help bring back the pictures in disneysreencaps.com and after it was completly signed all of the pictures came back
      I know that, but do they work with something big like entire Disney movies and other big company parts (like theme parks, tv shows, video games, stage shows etc)?
      Oh come now, please stop worrying Change.org has never failed on great companies, like for the one to have Sym-Bionic Titan go back on air, the signatures are going off like pancakes

      Worrying and being realistic are two different things.

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    • Petitions are real, asking if the signatures work sounds more like worrying to me.

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    • Does this mean that disney will entirely stop making animation movies

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    • Orlando678 wrote:
      Does this mean that disney will entirely stop making animation movies

      No Orlando678

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    • Pfffieuww

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    • Orlando678 wrote:
      Pfffieuww

      This is about traditional animation (you know hand drawn) not the entire animation thing

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    • That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.

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    • Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.

      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition

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    • That's old news, it's you give up hope too easily

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      That's old news, it's you give up hope too easily

      If so, than why don't you leave this thread alone?

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    • Even take a look at this, http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die. 899 signatures so far. That proves that many still care.

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition

      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:

      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition

      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Well a small minority wants Disney fairytales for boys, but nothing and no one is around to change that. At least not yet there isn't.

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Petition can help, it work for many companies

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    • Movimationguy wrote:

      Nsanity64 wrote:

      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Well a small minority wants Disney fairytales for boys, but nothing and no one is around to change that. At least not yet there isn't.

      Like I said, you can leave you know

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!

      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!
      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 

      But, will they ever give 2d hand drawn animation a chance someday?

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!
      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 
      But, will they ever give 2d hand drawn animation a chance someday?

      Of course, with shows like Phineas and Ferb, Jake and the Neverland Pirates, and the shorts, Paperman and Get a Horse! and the petition, there is hope that will happen

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!
      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 
      But, will they ever give 2d hand drawn animation a chance someday?

      Maybe; we just have to be paitent. I hear that a new president is supposed to come in 2016, and maybe (s)he'll be willing to give 2D animation a chance. Or, maybe some other studio will make a 2D animated film that does very well, thus renewing interesting in the medium. But, as of now, whether or not it will return is a giant MAYBE. 

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!
      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 
      But, will they ever give 2d hand drawn animation a chance someday?
      Maybe; we just have to be paitent. I hear that a new president is supposed to come in 2016, and maybe (s)he'll be willing to give 2D animation a chance. Or, maybe some other studio will make a 2D animated film that does very well, thus renewing interesting in the medium. But, as of now, whether or not it will return is a giant MAYBE. 

      I think you're right, that maybe another sign of hope

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!
      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 
      But, will they ever give 2d hand drawn animation a chance someday?
      Maybe; we just have to be paitent. I hear that a new president is supposed to come in 2016, and maybe (s)he'll be willing to give 2D animation a chance. Or, maybe some other studio will make a 2D animated film that does very well, thus renewing interesting in the medium. But, as of now, whether or not it will return is a giant MAYBE. 

      Well, Studio Ghibli's newest film competed with Frozen for Best Animated Feature, so maybe that does something.

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    • LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      I do hope the new Mickey Mouse movie would be made in traditional hand-drawn animation. The CGI magic only works for Mickey and his friends in Mickey's PhilharMagic, Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Mickey's Mousekersize, Minnie's Bow-Toons and Donald in the Mickey Mouse Works short, "Computer.don".

      Don't forget "Get a Horse!"

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    • Myuacc1Inc. wrote:
      LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      I do hope the new Mickey Mouse movie would be made in traditional hand-drawn animation. The CGI magic only works for Mickey and his friends in Mickey's PhilharMagic, Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Mickey's Mousekersize, Minnie's Bow-Toons and Donald in the Mickey Mouse Works short, "Computer.don".
      Don't forget "Get a Horse!"

      How can I forget "Get a Horse!"?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Movimationguy wrote:
      That's not going to happen. Disney has officially shut down their hand animation department. Public tastes have completely changed and not many people are demanding that kind of animation anymore.
      Don't be so sure bud, count your chickens after they hatch, I have proof that many do want it back, the petition
      Writing a petition doesn't mean Disney will see it and will want to bring it back because a small minority wants it.. Don't get me wrong, I want 2D animation to come back as well and I know audiences will still go and see it (that is, if they're marketed well). Heck, I'm sure some of the exectutives want it back as well. But, a lot of the higher-ups just aren't sure if 2D animation is profitable anymore, despite the fact it was poor marketing and misguided release dates (WINNIE THE POOH AGAINST HARRY POTTER!?) that hindered their profitability. With Disney coming up with a new strategy with their live-action output after disasters like John Carter and Lone Ranger, where original tent-pole movies will cost less than guaranteed hits like Marvel and Star Wars. With 2D animated films costing less than CG animated films already, why doesn't Disney just do something like that, in addition to good marketing and release dates?

      Also, interesting bit of trivia, apparently the animators on Get a Horse got a memo from the execs to switch the animation from 2D to CG as soon as possible so that they "won't loose the audience." Yeah... 

      Those executives are nothing but a bunch of anti-2D hand drawn animation jerks!
      It's not that they hate 2D animation; they just don't know what to do with it. Like I said, some of them probably want it back as well, and a select few of them are completely clueless about it. It's not right to completely generalize people like that when there are so many factors that go into running a company. 
      But, will they ever give 2d hand drawn animation a chance someday?
      Of course, with shows like Phineas and Ferb, Jake and the Neverland Pirates, and the shorts, Paperman and Get a Horse! and the petition, there is hope that will happen

      You bring up an interesting point regarding 2D animation on TV. 2D animated show's like Phineas & FerbGravity Falls, Adventure Time, Regular Show, and The Legend of Korra are very popular and show that people still like the medium. The Spongebob Squarepants Movie and The Simpsons Movie were huge hits upon release, and managed to hold their own against formidable CG competetors. I also imagine film adaptations of the aformentioned shows would do very well too, because they have a world and characters that people like, regardless if they're CG or not. Though, you could argue that they won't do any business if they didn't have that built-in fanbase to help them, same with the South Park, Spongebob, and Simpsons movies. But, with proper marketing and if the film is actually good (South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut is a good example of a cartoon based film. Yu-Gi-Oh: The Movie is a bad example), it could win new fans as well as satisfy the already established fanbase. Overall, if audiences will go see movies based on cartoons even though they're 2D, they may still flock to an original 2D animated film. Have I mentioned already that marketing is also key to a movie's success? 

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    • There is room for both traditional and computer animated films to exist in the Disney canon.  I agree that the look of "Paperboy" looked great.  The blend worked very well together.

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    • I know paperman looked cool but they can't go on with this and neither does every movie has to be CGI... I hope Disney will see the power in 2D animation again

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    • BromBones wrote:
      There is room for both traditional and computer animated films to exist in the Disney canon.  I agree that the look of "Paperboy" looked great.  The blend worked very well together.

      True, true

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    • Orlando678 wrote:
      I know paperman looked cool but they can't go on with this and neither does every movie has to be CGI... I hope Disney will see the power in 2D animation again

      Me too

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Even take a look at this, http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die. 899 signatures so far. That proves that many still care.

      I just found out that the petition is now closed.

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    • cgi just looks better!

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Even take a look at this, http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/disney-don-t-let-2d-animation-die. 899 signatures so far. That proves that many still care.
      I just found out that the petition is now closed.

      First of all: Hope that will be enough, second: who close it and third: I for one am not going to give up hope, I'll find a replacement, if not I'll make a new one if I have to

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    • Great news I just did found one: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-walt-disney-animation-studio-the-walt-disney-company-bring-back-2d-hand-drawn-animation-alongside-their-cgi-animations

      And it only needs 64 singatures and since I found it first I'll sign first and the rest of you can do the same

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Great news I just did found one: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-walt-disney-animation-studio-the-walt-disney-company-bring-back-2d-hand-drawn-animation-alongside-their-cgi-animations

      And it only needs 64 singatures and since I found it first I'll sign first and the rest of you can do the same

      Because of me make that 63 and I shared on Facebook so everybody can see it

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    • I just hope Disney gives hand drawn animation a chance when they get a new CEO of Disney. They two elected candidates, they are Jay Rasulo and Tom Staggs. I hope either one of them gives the medium a chance. 

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      I just hope Disney gives hand drawn animation a chance when they get a new CEO of Disney. They two elected candidates, they are Jay Rasulo and Tom Staggs. I hope either one of them gives the medium a chance. 

      Me too

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    • What was the last hand drawn feature film?

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    • Cash4gold24 wrote:
      What was the last hand drawn feature film?

      Winnie the Pooh 2011. But according to Iger, he said The Princess & the Frog, which is a total untrue.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Cash4gold24 wrote:
      What was the last hand drawn feature film?
      Winnie the Pooh 2011. But according to Iger, he said The Princess & the Frog, which is a total untrue.

      As of so far, they say The Name Game (film) is supposed to be hand drawn

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Cash4gold24 wrote:
      What was the last hand drawn feature film?
      Winnie the Pooh 2011. But according to Iger, he said The Princess & the Frog, which is a total untrue.
      As of so far, they say The Name Game (film) is supposed to be hand drawn


      If it's still coming out

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Cash4gold24 wrote:
      What was the last hand drawn feature film?
      Winnie the Pooh 2011. But according to Iger, he said The Princess & the Frog, which is a total untrue.
      As of so far, they say The Name Game (film) is supposed to be hand drawn

      Some people at DVDizzy.com says it's not going to happen. And says is not true. It's just not fair to Disney to give up hand drawn animation, because they're scared to do it.

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    • Yes but Disney made great hits with 2d animation, they would be unique with using it

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    • I just wish those executives are fired for not giving hand drawn animation a chance.

      By the way, I found this. 
      Save Disney Hand Drawn Animation

      Save Disney Hand Drawn Animation

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      I just wish those executives are fired for not giving hand drawn animation a chance. By the way, I found this. 
      Save Disney Hand Drawn Animation

      Save Disney Hand Drawn Animation

      Yes that would work, for it shows that some of the workers in Disney still care about the medium like Ron Clements and John Lasseter

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    • I wish that Walt was here to give his oppinion

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    • Orlando678 wrote:
      I wish that Walt was here to give his oppinion

      Me too

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Orlando678 wrote:
      I wish that Walt was here to give his oppinion
      Me too

      get your shovels and meet me by the pirates of the carribean ride hahaha

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    • Cash4gold24 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Orlando678 wrote:
      I wish that Walt was here to give his oppinion
      Me too
      get your shovels and meet me by the pirates of the carribean ride hahaha

      That's not funny, that and the belief that Walt Disney hid his brain in the Matterhorn are just sick rumors, he along with his brain were really cremated

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Cash4gold24 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Orlando678 wrote:
      I wish that Walt was here to give his oppinion
      Me too
      get your shovels and meet me by the pirates of the carribean ride hahaha
      That's not funny, that and the belief that Walt Disney hid his brain in the Matterhorn are just sick rumors, he along with his brain were really cremated

      I know, this is the most a stupidest false rumor I ever heard in my entire life. Philistines!

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    • Maybe Cash4gold24 was just kidding?

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Maybe Cash4gold24 was just kidding?

      I don't know

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Maybe Cash4gold24 was just kidding?

      I hope so.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Maybe Cash4gold24 was just kidding?
      I hope so.

      I was

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    • Cash4gold24 wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      Maybe Cash4gold24 was just kidding?
      I hope so.
      I was

      Good. Glad you were joking.

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    • Although it is a bit disrespectful, I think it's also a kind of good myth. And what do you expect, that he would really dig at Pirates of the Caribbean

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    • I saw this quote on an old article on Film.com about movie musicals and it made me kind of sad and reminded me of this thread:

      "Of course, the most globally beloved bearers of the flame were Disney musicals like “Aladdin” and “The Little Mermaid”, and this week’s “Frozen” finds the Mouse House harkening back to that grand tradition, even if they’ve ditched lush 2D animation for a more rounded, sterile look."

      It's sad that a mainstream source thinks that Disney has ditched 2d animation. Even that word, "ditched", doesn't sound right. I hope more evidence comes one day that proves that thought wrong.

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    • What about a SRMTHFG movie?

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    • Mcdyl2468 wrote:
      What about a SRMTHFG movie?

      A what movie?

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    • Frozen Keyblade Master wrote:

      Mcdyl2468 wrote:
      What about a SRMTHFG movie?

      A what movie?

      Super robot monkey team hyperforce go

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      I saw this quote on an old article on Film.com about movie musicals and it made me kind of sad and reminded me of this thread:

      "Of course, the most globally beloved bearers of the flame were Disney musicals like “Aladdin” and “The Little Mermaid”, and this week’s “Frozen” finds the Mouse House harkening back to that grand tradition, even if they’ve ditched lush 2D animation for a more rounded, sterile look."

      It's sad that a mainstream source thinks that Disney has ditched 2d animation. Even that word, "ditched", doesn't sound right. I hope more evidence comes one day that proves that thought wrong.

      What!? Who said that? Is it Bob Iger?

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    • Mcdyl2468 wrote:

      Frozen Keyblade Master wrote:

      Mcdyl2468 wrote:
      What about a SRMTHFG movie?
      A what movie?
      Super robot monkey team hyperforce go

      That's not even a Disney creation. No way. Maybe another small company would produce that film, probably not Disney though.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      I saw this quote on an old article on Film.com about movie musicals and it made me kind of sad and reminded me of this thread:

      "Of course, the most globally beloved bearers of the flame were Disney musicals like “Aladdin” and “The Little Mermaid”, and this week’s “Frozen” finds the Mouse House harkening back to that grand tradition, even if they’ve ditched lush 2D animation for a more rounded, sterile look."

      It's sad that a mainstream source thinks that Disney has ditched 2d animation. Even that word, "ditched", doesn't sound right. I hope more evidence comes one day that proves that thought wrong.

      What!? Who said that? Is it Bob Iger?

      No, the person who wrote the article on Film.com, lol. It wasn't a news article.
      .

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:

      Mcdyl2468 wrote:

      Frozen Keyblade Master wrote:

      Mcdyl2468 wrote:
      What about a SRMTHFG movie?
      A what movie?
      Super robot monkey team hyperforce go

      That's not even a Disney creation. No way. Maybe another small company would produce that film, probably not Disney though.

      It's a company owned by Disney that made it

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    • Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left

      I know a lot of you don't want to admit it, but Disney is a billion dollar corporation. They have to do what's neccasary to turn a profit. I do not think they should throw away their artistic integrity for profit, but it's very hard to find that fine line between making money and making art. That petition doesn't really explain how 2D animation could be profitable for them. It can be and it's actually very simple, as I have explained countless times before. Just saying "We want 2D animation back because it's your roots and its nostalgic," is not a very strong arguement since nostalgia does not always equal ticket sales, as evident with Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh. If Disney is going to bring 2D animation back, they better try new things with it if they want it to stick. Making fairy-tale musicals is fine on occasion; but for every Beauty and the Beast and Frozen, there needs to be an Emperor's New Groove and Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, they should have good marketing that showcases the unique qualities of the film and reasonable release dates. 

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left

      WHERE IS THIS PETITION??

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    • I know Disney has to try new things, but they can't just leave 2d animation... If disney keeps doing those movies, they are kind of unique... Disney made great hits with 2d animation like, Snow white and the seven dwarfs, The little mermaid and ofcourse Princess and the frog. I love Tangled and Frozen but I don't want CGI to take over.

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    • Orlando678 wrote:
      I know Disney has to try new things, but they can't just leave 2d animation... If disney keeps doing those movies, they are kind of unique... Disney made great hits with 2d animation like, Snow white and the seven dwarfs, The little mermaid and ofcourse Princess and the frog. I love Tangled and Frozen but I don't want CGI to take over.

      Here here!

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    • Site Looker wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left
      WHERE IS THIS PETITION??

       http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-walt-disney-animation-studio-the-walt-disney-company-bring-back-2d-hand-drawn-animation-alongside-their-cgi-animations

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Orlando678 wrote:
      I know Disney has to try new things, but they can't just leave 2d animation... If disney keeps doing those movies, they are kind of unique... Disney made great hits with 2d animation like, Snow white and the seven dwarfs, The little mermaid and ofcourse Princess and the frog. I love Tangled and Frozen but I don't want CGI to take over.
      Here here!

      Here, Here

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    • Hey guys, I found a interesting article from the former Disney Animator Scott T. Peterson.And he has an advice for Disney to make hand drawn animation popular again.here's what he says:



       Q: Traditional animation is in a slump in the US. What would be your formula to revive it again?


      Scott T. Petersen: First, I think it’s important to analyze what caused the down turn in the first place. In my opinion the 2D films that Disney and the other studios were putting out from about the time of Emporer’s New Groove and later, (with some exceptions) were not connecting as much with audiences and simply not as appealing in both story and subject matter. And in contrast at the same time Pixar was on the up rise making great films and so executives equated that with an audience rejection of the 2D medium in preference to computer animated films. Well we all know that’s BALONEY, but try and convince a high powered executive of that. It certainly was NOT the 2D medium that audiences didn’t like.


      What would be my formula to revive the 2D medium again? I think it would take a pretty awesome movie! It would certainly take a movie that would really capture the worlds attention and imagination in the same way that The Little Mermaid did in 89’. That film had an amazing phenomenal effect on audiences and the reasons why can be debated but it did start a whole new era or revolution for animation if you will. I’m not saying that we should use the same filmic formula as that but it would certainly take a film with similar mass appeal to revive the medium. We all had such great hopes for The Princess and the Frog but it did not have the same effect for reasons that can also be debated.


      I do believe that it’s only a matter of time before some visionary comes up with a great concept and one of the studios agrees to back it and if all the right talent and elements are brought together again, Bam!, lightning will strike and all the studios will dog pile, as they always do to scramble to find the best 2D animators available. By then we might all be animating on Cintiques or the like but they say history repeats itself and I’m sure it will here also.


      As far as a formula goes, I would say that you have to start with a winning concept or story of course. Next putting all the right talent together is paramount in all the areas. Then I think, keeping the costs down in this case enough so that it has a chance to make a decent profit, or it will be another nail in the 2D coffin. Inflamed budgets are not necessarily essential for a great movie. In fact I’ve noticed in some cases when a director is given unlimited freedom and money that’s sometimes when he messes things up.

      I just hope Disney is hearing this.And I hope Disney will do The Name Game as their hand drawn animated movie.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:

      Hey guys, I found a interesting article from the former Disney Animator Scott T. Peterson.And he has an advice for Disney to make hand drawn animation popular again.here's what he says:



       Q: Traditional animation is in a slump in the US. What would be your formula to revive it again?


      Scott T. Petersen: First, I think it’s important to analyze what caused the down turn in the first place. In my opinion the 2D films that Disney and the other studios were putting out from about the time of Emporer’s New Groove and later, (with some exceptions) were not connecting as much with audiences and simply not as appealing in both story and subject matter. And in contrast at the same time Pixar was on the up rise making great films and so executives equated that with an audience rejection of the 2D medium in preference to computer animated films. Well we all know that’s BALONEY, but try and convince a high powered executive of that. It certainly was NOT the 2D medium that audiences didn’t like.


      What would be my formula to revive the 2D medium again? I think it would take a pretty awesome movie! It would certainly take a movie that would really capture the worlds attention and imagination in the same way that The Little Mermaid did in 89’. That film had an amazing phenomenal effect on audiences and the reasons why can be debated but it did start a whole new era or revolution for animation if you will. I’m not saying that we should use the same filmic formula as that but it would certainly take a film with similar mass appeal to revive the medium. We all had such great hopes for The Princess and the Frog but it did not have the same effect for reasons that can also be debated.


      I do believe that it’s only a matter of time before some visionary comes up with a great concept and one of the studios agrees to back it and if all the right talent and elements are brought together again, Bam!, lightning will strike and all the studios will dog pile, as they always do to scramble to find the best 2D animators available. By then we might all be animating on Cintiques or the like but they say history repeats itself and I’m sure it will here also.


      As far as a formula goes, I would say that you have to start with a winning concept or story of course. Next putting all the right talent together is paramount in all the areas. Then I think, keeping the costs down in this case enough so that it has a chance to make a decent profit, or it will be another nail in the 2D coffin. Inflamed budgets are not necessarily essential for a great movie. In fact I’ve noticed in some cases when a director is given unlimited freedom and money that’s sometimes when he messes things up.

      I just hope Disney is hearing this.And I hope Disney will do The Name Game as their hand drawn animated movie.

      Great advice we should put it in the peitition

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left
      I know a lot of you don't want to admit it, but Disney is a billion dollar corporation. They have to do what's neccasary to turn a profit. I do not think they should throw away their artistic integrity for profit, but it's very hard to find that fine line between making money and making art. That petition doesn't really explain how 2D animation could be profitable for them. It can be and it's actually very simple, as I have explained countless times before. Just saying "We want 2D animation back because it's your roots and its nostalgic," is not a very strong arguement since nostalgia does not always equal ticket sales, as evident with Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh. If Disney is going to bring 2D animation back, they better try new things with it if they want it to stick. Making fairy-tale musicals is fine on occasion; but for every Beauty and the Beast and Frozen, there needs to be an Emperor's New Groove and Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, they should have good marketing that showcases the unique qualities of the film and reasonable release dates. 

      At things like you what brought up, I think and try to remind people what Mr. Yamaguchi said on one shouldn't just focus on money but also bringing joy to children and also having a heart of child

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left
      I know a lot of you don't want to admit it, but Disney is a billion dollar corporation. They have to do what's neccasary to turn a profit. I do not think they should throw away their artistic integrity for profit, but it's very hard to find that fine line between making money and making art. That petition doesn't really explain how 2D animation could be profitable for them. It can be and it's actually very simple, as I have explained countless times before. Just saying "We want 2D animation back because it's your roots and its nostalgic," is not a very strong arguement since nostalgia does not always equal ticket sales, as evident with Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh. If Disney is going to bring 2D animation back, they better try new things with it if they want it to stick. Making fairy-tale musicals is fine on occasion; but for every Beauty and the Beast and Frozen, there needs to be an Emperor's New Groove and Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, they should have good marketing that showcases the unique qualities of the film and reasonable release dates. 
      At things like you what brought up, I think and try to remind people what Mr. Yamaguchi said on one shouldn't just focus on money but also bringing joy to children and also having a heart of child

      Who is Mr. Yamaguchi? When did I say Disney should throw away their artistic integrity for money? I was only expressing the reality of situation. Disney won't just bring back 2D animation just because it's their roots and it's nostalgic if it doesn't make them money. 2D animated films COULD make them money if Disney doesn't act stupid with them. Also, one doesn't have to make stuff for children. I've stressed this before, make what you want to watch.

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    • Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left
      I know a lot of you don't want to admit it, but Disney is a billion dollar corporation. They have to do what's neccasary to turn a profit. I do not think they should throw away their artistic integrity for profit, but it's very hard to find that fine line between making money and making art. That petition doesn't really explain how 2D animation could be profitable for them. It can be and it's actually very simple, as I have explained countless times before. Just saying "We want 2D animation back because it's your roots and its nostalgic," is not a very strong arguement since nostalgia does not always equal ticket sales, as evident with Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh. If Disney is going to bring 2D animation back, they better try new things with it if they want it to stick. Making fairy-tale musicals is fine on occasion; but for every Beauty and the Beast and Frozen, there needs to be an Emperor's New Groove and Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, they should have good marketing that showcases the unique qualities of the film and reasonable release dates. 
      At things like you what brought up, I think and try to remind people what Mr. Yamaguchi said on one shouldn't just focus on money but also bringing joy to children and also having a heart of child
      Who is Mr. Yamaguchi? When did I say Disney should throw away their artistic integrity for money? I was only expressing the reality of situation. Disney won't just bring back 2D animation just because it's their roots and it's nostalgic if it doesn't make them money. 2D animated films COULD make them money if Disney doesn't act stupid with them. Also, one doesn't have to make stuff for children. I've stressed this before, make what you want to watch.

      Oops, my mistake, Mr. Yamaguchi is the head Reptar Land from Rugrats in Paris: The Movie and you should get his point on one shouldn't just focus on money

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Nsanity64 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Hey guys, the peitition needs all of your signatures left for it needs 61 left
      I know a lot of you don't want to admit it, but Disney is a billion dollar corporation. They have to do what's neccasary to turn a profit. I do not think they should throw away their artistic integrity for profit, but it's very hard to find that fine line between making money and making art. That petition doesn't really explain how 2D animation could be profitable for them. It can be and it's actually very simple, as I have explained countless times before. Just saying "We want 2D animation back because it's your roots and its nostalgic," is not a very strong arguement since nostalgia does not always equal ticket sales, as evident with Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh. If Disney is going to bring 2D animation back, they better try new things with it if they want it to stick. Making fairy-tale musicals is fine on occasion; but for every Beauty and the Beast and Frozen, there needs to be an Emperor's New Groove and Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, they should have good marketing that showcases the unique qualities of the film and reasonable release dates. 
      At things like you what brought up, I think and try to remind people what Mr. Yamaguchi said on one shouldn't just focus on money but also bringing joy to children and also having a heart of child
      Who is Mr. Yamaguchi? When did I say Disney should throw away their artistic integrity for money? I was only expressing the reality of situation. Disney won't just bring back 2D animation just because it's their roots and it's nostalgic if it doesn't make them money. 2D animated films COULD make them money if Disney doesn't act stupid with them. Also, one doesn't have to make stuff for children. I've stressed this before, make what you want to watch.
      Oops, my mistake, Mr. Yamaguchi is the head Reptar Land from Rugrats in Paris: The Movie and you should get his point on one shouldn't just focus on money

      I get that point because I have even stressed that before.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:

      Hey guys, I found a interesting article from the former Disney Animator Scott T. Peterson.And he has an advice for Disney to make hand drawn animation popular again.here's what he says:



       Q: Traditional animation is in a slump in the US. What would be your formula to revive it again?


      Scott T. Petersen: First, I think it’s important to analyze what caused the down turn in the first place. In my opinion the 2D films that Disney and the other studios were putting out from about the time of Emporer’s New Groove and later, (with some exceptions) were not connecting as much with audiences and simply not as appealing in both story and subject matter. And in contrast at the same time Pixar was on the up rise making great films and so executives equated that with an audience rejection of the 2D medium in preference to computer animated films. Well we all know that’s BALONEY, but try and convince a high powered executive of that. It certainly was NOT the 2D medium that audiences didn’t like.


      What would be my formula to revive the 2D medium again? I think it would take a pretty awesome movie! It would certainly take a movie that would really capture the worlds attention and imagination in the same way that The Little Mermaid did in 89’. That film had an amazing phenomenal effect on audiences and the reasons why can be debated but it did start a whole new era or revolution for animation if you will. I’m not saying that we should use the same filmic formula as that but it would certainly take a film with similar mass appeal to revive the medium. We all had such great hopes for The Princess and the Frog but it did not have the same effect for reasons that can also be debated.


      I do believe that it’s only a matter of time before some visionary comes up with a great concept and one of the studios agrees to back it and if all the right talent and elements are brought together again, Bam!, lightning will strike and all the studios will dog pile, as they always do to scramble to find the best 2D animators available. By then we might all be animating on Cintiques or the like but they say history repeats itself and I’m sure it will here also.


      As far as a formula goes, I would say that you have to start with a winning concept or story of course. Next putting all the right talent together is paramount in all the areas. Then I think, keeping the costs down in this case enough so that it has a chance to make a decent profit, or it will be another nail in the 2D coffin. Inflamed budgets are not necessarily essential for a great movie. In fact I’ve noticed in some cases when a director is given unlimited freedom and money that’s sometimes when he messes things up.

      I just hope Disney is hearing this.And I hope Disney will do The Name Game as their hand drawn animated movie.

      I agree with everything stated. But, refering to what WDJR said, I doubt that petition will work with a company as big as Disney, not unless it has over a million signatures.

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:

      Hey guys, I found a interesting article from the former Disney Animator Scott T. Peterson.And he has an advice for Disney to make hand drawn animation popular again.here's what he says:



       Q: Traditional animation is in a slump in the US. What would be your formula to revive it again?


      Scott T. Petersen: First, I think it’s important to analyze what caused the down turn in the first place. In my opinion the 2D films that Disney and the other studios were putting out from about the time of Emporer’s New Groove and later, (with some exceptions) were not connecting as much with audiences and simply not as appealing in both story and subject matter. And in contrast at the same time Pixar was on the up rise making great films and so executives equated that with an audience rejection of the 2D medium in preference to computer animated films. Well we all know that’s BALONEY, but try and convince a high powered executive of that. It certainly was NOT the 2D medium that audiences didn’t like.


      What would be my formula to revive the 2D medium again? I think it would take a pretty awesome movie! It would certainly take a movie that would really capture the worlds attention and imagination in the same way that The Little Mermaid did in 89’. That film had an amazing phenomenal effect on audiences and the reasons why can be debated but it did start a whole new era or revolution for animation if you will. I’m not saying that we should use the same filmic formula as that but it would certainly take a film with similar mass appeal to revive the medium. We all had such great hopes for The Princess and the Frog but it did not have the same effect for reasons that can also be debated.


      I do believe that it’s only a matter of time before some visionary comes up with a great concept and one of the studios agrees to back it and if all the right talent and elements are brought together again, Bam!, lightning will strike and all the studios will dog pile, as they always do to scramble to find the best 2D animators available. By then we might all be animating on Cintiques or the like but they say history repeats itself and I’m sure it will here also.


      As far as a formula goes, I would say that you have to start with a winning concept or story of course. Next putting all the right talent together is paramount in all the areas. Then I think, keeping the costs down in this case enough so that it has a chance to make a decent profit, or it will be another nail in the 2D coffin. Inflamed budgets are not necessarily essential for a great movie. In fact I’ve noticed in some cases when a director is given unlimited freedom and money that’s sometimes when he messes things up.

      I just hope Disney is hearing this.And I hope Disney will do The Name Game as their hand drawn animated movie.

      I agree with everything stated. But, refering to what WDJR said, I doubt that petition will work with a company as big as Disney, not unless it has over a million signatures.

      We can hope

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    • The has to be a way to get Disney hand drawn animation back. And I don't think petitions will work. 
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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      The has to be a way to get Disney hand drawn animation back. And I don't think petitions will work. 

      I don't blame you for some people believe that thought but it would never hurt to try something like that

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
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      The has to be a way to get Disney hand drawn animation back. And I don't think petitions will work. 

      |}

      I don't blame you for some people believe that thought but it would never hurt to try something like that

      But the petition is closed. It's like they gave up or something.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      {| cellspacing="1" class="tablebg" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;" width="100%"

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      The has to be a way to get Disney hand drawn animation back. And I don't think petitions will work. 

      |}

      I don't blame you for some people believe that thought but it would never hurt to try something like that
      But the petition is closed. It's like they gave up or something.

      Not this one: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-walt-disney-animation-studio-the-walt-disney-company-bring-back-2d-hand-drawn-animation-alongside-their-cgi-animations

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      The has to be a way to get Disney hand drawn animation back. And I don't think petitions will work. 

      Agreed. Maybe someone should get someone with power in the Disney company to say something.

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    • I just don't get it why they are just rid 2d animation, Disney can do great things with it and it can make them very unique. They would probably be very popular with 2d animation, Cgi, Live-action and stop-motion movies.

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
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      The has to be a way to get Disney hand drawn animation back. And I don't think petitions will work. 

      |}

      Agreed. Maybe someone should get someone with power in the Disney company to say something.

      You guys won't know if the peititions do work unless you give them a try and chance

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    • Orlando678 wrote:
      I just don't get it why they are just rid 2d animation, Disney can do great things with it and it can make them very unique. They would probably be very popular with 2d animation, Cgi, Live-action and stop-motion movies.

      That's very true

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    • This is great, for there;s now 59 signatures left in the peitition

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    • There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie

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    • Now 57 left

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Now 57 left

      Wow! That went fast!

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie

      But, I thought it got cancelled.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.


      It is true.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      I found out on wikipedia their still making a Phineas and Ferb movie but in animation

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    • XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      It is true.

      Yes, but I found out there going to do it in Wikipedia

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      It is true.
      Yes, but I found out there going to do it in Wikipedia


      No offense, Walt Disney Jr., but sometimes, Wikipedia is not always a reliable source.

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    • LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      It is true.
      Yes, but I found out there going to do it in Wikipedia

      No offense, Walt Disney Jr., but sometimes, Wikipedia is not always a reliable source.

      LegalizeAnythingMuppets has a point. Sorry.

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    • TsWade2 wrote:
      LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      It is true.
      Yes, but I found out there going to do it in Wikipedia

      No offense, Walt Disney Jr., but sometimes, Wikipedia is not always a reliable source.
      LegalizeAnythingMuppets has a point. Sorry.

      I'm not so sure about it myself

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    • LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      It is true.
      Yes, but I found out there going to do it in Wikipedia

      No offense, Walt Disney Jr., but sometimes, Wikipedia is not always a reliable source.

      Googling it and looking for a reliable source might work better.

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    • JayTehSpongetta wrote:
      LegalizeAnythingMuppets wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      XavienAntoniofan wrote:
      TsWade2 wrote:
      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      There might be hope after all, with the new Phineas and Ferb movie
      But, I thought it got cancelled.

      It is true.
      Yes, but I found out there going to do it in Wikipedia

      No offense, Walt Disney Jr., but sometimes, Wikipedia is not always a reliable source.
      Googling it and looking for a reliable source might work better.

      Yeah

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    • Eaxclty, cgi is turning into overused junk! Its about time 2d gets a chance!

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Disney should make more Traditional Animated films, for has been a tradition for Disney and that's what Walt Disney would want. We shouldn't let fans just focus on CGI, they should pay attention on both. We should make a petition.

      We still have hope The Name Game is traiditionally animated

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    • Carebearheart wrote:
      Eaxclty, cgi is turning into overused junk! Its about time 2d gets a chance!

      Yeah

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    • The animation thing does make me think about the Spongebob episode, Krusty Dogs, once the new comes around, people perfers that thing more than the original and that new replaces the original

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    • Carebearheart wrote:
      Eaxclty, cgi is turning into overused junk! Its about time 2d gets a chance!

      Yeah for it seems CGI is all we see in movies this days

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:

      Carebearheart wrote:
      Eaxclty, cgi is turning into overused junk! Its about time 2d gets a chance!

      Yeah for it seems CGI is all we see in movies this days

      Oh and like it doesn't matter that the only Disney movie people care about now is Frozen, right? This 2d vs. CGI thing is kind of similar to the fact that all we hear every day is more of this Frozen obsession.

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    • Movimationguy wrote:

      Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:

      Carebearheart wrote:
      Eaxclty, cgi is turning into overused junk! Its about time 2d gets a chance!
      Yeah for it seems CGI is all we see in movies this days
      Oh and like it doesn't matter that the only Disney movie people care about now is Frozen, right? This 2d vs. CGI thing is kind of simil