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  • Disney Channel's fourth season rule is getting on my nerve cause some shows deserve a season 5,6,7,8,9,10, or etc....  I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE 4 SEASON RULES! LOT OF CHANNEL GO PASS FOURTH BUT THE ONLY CHANNEL I KNOW OF THAT DOESN'T GO BEYOND THE FOURTH SEASON IS DISNEY CHANNEL! DISNEY CHANNEL STOP WITH THE FOURTH SEASON RULE! 

    DO YOU THINK DISNEY CHANNEL NEEDS STOP THE FOURTH SEASON RULE?

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    • I do i think that rule is stupid it should be based off of how many views it gets and if the viewers want more

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    • Agreed. If I created a show for Disney Channel, I'd want it to have a nine season run!

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    • Butterfly2015 wrote:
      Disney Channel's fourth season rule is getting on my nerve cause some shows deserve a season 5,6,7,8,9,10, or etc....  I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE 4 SEASON RULES! LOT OF CHANNEL GO PASS FOURTH BUT THE ONLY CHANNEL I KNOW OF THAT DOESN'T GO BEYOND THE FOURTH SEASON IS DISNEY CHANNEL! DISNEY CHANNEL STOP WITH THE FOURTH SEASON RULE! 

      DO YOU THINK DISNEY CHANNEL NEEDS STOP THE FOURTH SEASON RULE?

      I hope the DuckTales reboot (on Disney XD) runs beyond 4 seasons! Hopefully 10 seasons!

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    • I was mad at Disney Channel for Girl Meets World

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    • disney needs to stop with this i mean even the cartoons. i mean look at nick with there cartoons they last as long as the want 

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    • Theorodore12345 wrote: disney needs to stop with this i mean even the cartoons. i mean look at nick with there cartoons they last as long as the want 

      Yea be like spongebob it been running since 1999 and it’s still running! Even the creators don’t want it to end! They keep on saying “we will end it 2015,16,17 now it’s nearly 2018, Be like spongebob.

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    • Disney needs to stop using their 4 season rule. My favorite cartoon, Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil, has confirmed season 4. The 4 season rule would mean that SVTFOE would end at season 4. Even Daron Nefcy, Adam McArthur, Eden Sher, and Robert Iger can agree with me on this: SVTFOE deserves more than 4 seasons, given its overall popularity. Speaking of that, imagine all the people who would be affected by SVTFOE’s end. Just look at PBS Kids, Nickelodeon, etc. Some, if not, all of their cartoons have lasted for more than 4 seasons. Disney is the only channel I have heard of that has a 4 season limit. I just don’t see a point in having a 4 season limit to a cartoon that deserves many more seasons. Please reconsider the 4 season rule.

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    • StarcoShipper436 wrote:
      Disney needs to stop using their 4 season rule. My favorite cartoon, Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil, has confirmed season 4. The 4 season rule would mean that SVTFOE would end at season 4. Even Daron Nefcy, Adam McArthur, Eden Sher, and Robert Iger can agree with me on this: SVTFOE deserves more than 4 seasons, given its overall popularity. Speaking of that, imagine all the people who would be affected by SVTFOE’s end. Just look at PBS Kids, Nickelodeon, etc. Some, if not, all of their cartoons have lasted for more than 4 seasons. Disney is the only channel I have heard of that has a 4 season limit. I just don’t see a point in having a 4 season limit to a cartoon that deserves many more seasons. Please reconsider the 4 season rule.

      I agree disney shows no mercy even for the cartoons

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    • Mickey Mouse broke the four season limit. Season 5!!

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    • DisneyChannelStar14 wrote:
      Mickey Mouse broke the four season limit. Season 5!!

      Really wasome 

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    • I just wish hat lab rats kapt going :(((

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    • The new Mickey Mouse series is getting a fifth season!

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    • StarcoShipper436 wrote: Disney needs to stop using their 4 season rule. My favorite cartoon, Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil, has confirmed season 4. The 4 season rule would mean that SVTFOE would end at season 4. Even Daron Nefcy, Adam McArthur, Eden Sher, and Robert Iger can agree with me on this: SVTFOE deserves more than 4 seasons, given its overall popularity. Speaking of that, imagine all the people who would be affected by SVTFOE’s end. Just look at PBS Kids, Nickelodeon, etc. Some, if not, all of their cartoons have lasted for more than 4 seasons. Disney is the only channel I have heard of that has a 4 season limit. I just don’t see a point in having a 4 season limit to a cartoon that deserves many more seasons. Please reconsider the 4 season rule.

      I guess Disney heard me...

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    • Lab Rats is awesome

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    • Doc McStuffins broke the streak with a renewal for season 5. Why Disney has the 4 season rule is anyone's guess. I'd say that Disney as a company is more concerned with their animated movies than their tv shows, hence why they usually put a limit as to how long a show can run.

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    • Sofiaelena1120 wrote: Doc McStuffins broke the streak with a renewal for season 5. Why Disney has the 4 season rule is anyone's guess. I'd say that Disney as a company is more concerned with their animated movies than their tv shows, hence why they usually put a limit as to how long a show can run.

      Disney Junior was the first, then Disney XD, now Disney Channel.

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    • the 4th season policy is better than the 65th episode policy

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    • It is but I think Disney Channel should change the 4th season rule to a fifth season rule.

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    • It was lifted in 2004, read the page

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    • Right now the fourth season rule was broken by that Mickey Mouse cartoon.

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    • That's because it's not a full length series. It's only a short series which is acceptable. Still it was still broken. A full length Disney Channel show still needs to break the fourth season limit and I think this could be done by Andi Mack or Raven's Home.

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    • DisneyChannelStar14 wrote: That's because it's not a full length series. It's only a short series which is acceptable. Still it was still broken. A full length Disney Channel show still needs to break the fourth season limit and I think this could be done by Andi Mack and/or Raven's Home.

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    • 3 to 7 seasons I'd let it depend on who the main characters are plus the rate of the stars in each series. It is Mickey Mouse who has had the most TV series and that does show something quite unfair to other fun cartoons including animated shows. 



      I agree with the team that wants the fourth season rule to end.

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    • DisneyChannelStar14 wrote:
      That's because it's not a full length series. It's only a short series which is acceptable. Still it was still broken. A full length Disney Channel show still needs to break the fourth season limit and I think this could be done by Andi Mack or Raven's Home.

      Hopefully those two, AND the Ducktales reboot.

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    • Doc McStuffins broke the rule!

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    • Happy2432 wrote: Doc McStuffins broke the rule!

      We're talking about a Disney Channel Original Series. That's a Disney Junior Original Series.

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    • I just hope that Andi Mack gets a 4th season!

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    • Cronedan1 wrote:
      I just hope that Andi Mack gets a 4th season!

      and a 5th too!

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    • Carebearheart wrote:
      Cronedan1 wrote:
      I just hope that Andi Mack gets a 4th season!
      and a 5th too!

      I love the show so much I think it should go on for waaaaaaay more than 3 seasons. It's literally that good.

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    • DisneyChannelStar14 wrote:

      Happy2432 wrote: Doc McStuffins broke the rule!

      We're talking about a Disney Channel Original Series. That's a Disney Junior Original Series.

      doc mcstuffins is disney >:( 

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    • Kitty5327 wrote:
      DisneyChannelStar14 wrote:

      Happy2432 wrote: Doc McStuffins broke the rule!

      We're talking about a Disney Channel Original Series. That's a Disney Junior Original Series.
      doc mcstuffins is disney >:( just because it's on disney jr doesn't make it an original disney show,cause it's STILL disney!
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    • Pepper Ann lasted five seasons.

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    • I think they should keep the four season rule, but shows with exceptionaly high ratings and massive fan bases should be allowed to bend the rules. 

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    • Brenden4000 wrote:
      I think they should keep the four season rule, but shows with exceptionaly high ratings and massive fan bases should be allowed to bend the rules. 

      nuh-uh, that would too selective and cruel

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    • I agree with Carebearheart here about not keeping the four season rule, especially since even with such a rule some show don't get the rating they actually deserve because of confusion of the shows' messages / themes / or even song phrases not clear to everyone, plus those who don't see the bright side of a strong character who might not be strong physically but strong in wisdom or stuff such as determination, or strong loyalty which is frequently misunderstood. 



      The need of good rating would  have its difficulties increase keeping this four season rule forever. without this four season rule I'd do five to seven seasons letting rumors of the show help with the decision of the number of seasons as well as letting fans' advice of how to change the show help with future video even if it requires a combination of stuff. I'd read both blogs and websites if I ever created motion picture details myself. Even not being a creator of videos I already have fine creativity for my favorite characters no matter what film they're in, and I show my creativity both ways fan art done at home and writing on fanon wikis to share imagination, plus writing on blogs for my top favorites who I frequently day dream about. The four season rule isn't necessary, especially when you think of money results for Disney's company.

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    • I pray and predict that Big Hero 6: The Series deserves to last 5 seasons.

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    • With Andi Mack ending, I say we should pray that the new Ducktales, Big Hero 6: the Series, and the upcoming Amphibia all last five seasons.

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    • Carebearheart wrote: With Andi Mack ending, I say we should pray that the new Ducktales, Big Hero 6: the Series, and the upcoming Amphibia all last five seasons.

      Same

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    • new idea!, I bet Disney Channel now can do more than 4 seasons in their ANIMATED SHOWS!

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    • Yes Indeed, it's animated shows that get more attention especially if you include the number of people who form DVDs of animted TV shows but leave the shows with real people alone much longer. Shows with real people aren't even spoken about as frequently as animated shows are. And animated motion picture are the videos I like better. 



      Plus the advantages such as several of the animated shows share their main messages much clearer than shows with real people. So I agree animated shows really should be allowed to have more than 4 seasons.

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    • The Mickey Mouse shorts broke that rule (prob because its one of their most succesful show).

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    • MeadowFalls wrote:

      Theorodore12345 wrote: disney needs to stop with this i mean even the cartoons. i mean look at nick with there cartoons they last as long as the want 

      Yea be like spongebob it been running since 1999 and it’s still running! Even the creators don’t want it to end! They keep on saying “we will end it 2015,16,17 now it’s nearly 2018, Be like spongebob.

      I think the reason Disney has this rule is because they don’t want their cartoons to end up like Spongebob or The Simpsons.

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    • He still doesn't need to keep such a rule of just 4 Seasons I mean admit the length of time the shows like Tom and Jerry continue, same thing with Disney's own numerous social princess series on his channel. Doing Disney Princess motion picture on the TV screen non-stop.

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    • They had the 4th season rule to avoid seasonal rot and not to have poor reception to most of their show episodes. Just look at The Simpsons and Spongebob. These shows are long running, but their later seasons have received mixed to a overwhelmingly hostile reception from critics, audiences, and fans alike due to mostly repeative storytelling and newer episodes feeling unoriginal or being rehashes of older episodes. Fans want both of these shows to be cancelled sooner than later due to the severe drop in quality compared to earlier seasons. I'm saying that most shows, if they run long, then the quality will be severely drop from little to massive and their are more fillers then ever. Just look at Cartoon Network. They do a much better job managing their long-running shows because the new employees which join the show during its run are trained under the original employees' guidance. This ensures that their shows have a low chance of having seasonal rot and that they still entice the fanbase with less repetitive and more original storytelling. Some of their shows have more episodes due to them being 11-minutes unpaired and are produced separately.

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    • Seasonal rot doesn't always happen after season 4. that depends on the writers.

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    • I could think of 3 seasons worth of terrible scumbob episodes, with one of the recent ones being Ink Lemonade in season 11. Spongebob is slowly improving, but its still terrible nevertheless, even a bigger problem following Hillenburg's death in 2018.

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    • wrong wiki

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    • Carebearheart wrote: Seasonal rot doesn't always happen after season 4. that depends on the writers.

      Correction: Seasonal rot only happens in later seasons(in which were produced without the original crew members involvement) or if they get revived (without the creator's permission).(eg, Spongebob and Family Guy, not to be confused with reboots like TTG, PPG 2016, Ben 10 2017, and Thundercats Roar)

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    • I heard that Disney only makes up to 5 seasons of each of their shows.

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    • Paige EM wrote:
      I heard that Disney only makes up to 5 seasons of each of their shows.

      they did that once, Recess!

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    • Paige EM wrote: I heard that Disney only makes up to 5 seasons of each of their shows.

      "Nothing is official", says Pixar. Was it from Gamespot or the Animation Guild, cause they have been known to get things wrong in the past.

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    • Yep... I think PJ Masks is probably getting a fifth season too. So they're probably gonna break the rule.

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    • Aqquired shows don't count.

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    • Oh.

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    • Star Wars the Clone Wars is getting renewed for a seventh season even though it’s originally on Cartoon Network.

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    • Well here is my take on this. I remember way back when Nickelodeon cancelled iCarly a lot of fans were upset and unhappy. You would go to the iCarly facebook page and all I could see was people flooding their posts in boatloads begging the producers not to cancel the show and people commenting how upset they were at the time.

      Of course the show was still cancelled and peoples complaints did nothing. But here is the thing. When you look at a ahow like iCarly, Carly was on her way to college in the end. Sam and Freddie were too. Everyone is growing up. They won't have kids on a TV show forever and what happens when all your kid actors from the show grow up and you have adults playing high school kids in a TV show? That would be a bit weird.

      Also Disney and Nick are kids/ teens networks they need to cater to kids/ teens and if all their child actors stayed for 9 seaons they would be grown up by the last season and the show would no longer cater to their kid audience. So although I agree some shows deserve more than just 4 seasons I also see why Nickelodeon and Disney cancel them after 4 seasons.

      I also remember reading an article from the president of Disney Channel one time where he mentioned that shows like Shake it up and Girl Meets World were cancelled after a few seasons because they were two highest rated shows on Disney and he would rather the shows end while the ratings are still good and popular rather than having a show end because they had it running for so long that they lost their ratings and were forced to cancel a show.

      I doubt Disney or Nick will ever do away with this 4 season rule ever. From my understanding it used to be a 65 episode rule and that's so Raven is the only sitcom show who broke that rule but i dont know if it's better the 4 season rule or the 65 episode rule. Either way I agree they should allow certain shows to go longer. Good luck Charlie deserved more than 4 seasons. But I guess it is what it is. Maybe someday they will dismiss this 4 season rule. Who knows.... Another option is to have more spinoff shows this way some of the actors from the previous show can be on the spinoff show. Think Suit life of Zack and Cody how they did the spinoff suit life on deck.

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    • Ducktales has a big fandom so i say they have break the 4 season rule for that show

      Same with Amphibia and The Owl House, both big stories that 4 seasons cannot cover

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    • Nick listens to fans, but is not their priority. Most of the time, they CHEAP themselves out by copying Illumination's business model, leading to many of their 2010s content being UN-worthwhile for me to enjoy. Nick purposefully made shows like Breadwinners poorly received so they can cut down on production costs, a strategy former Disney heads, Ron Miller and Michael Eisner threatened to do in their tenures, which almost led to the company being bought out. And we know since the 1970s that Disney Animation's staff hates being cheap.

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    • I do belive the main reason they keep the "4th Season Rule" is like you guys said, to avoid the shows overstaying their welcome. Altough I feel Disney has become a lot more peeky in recent times with that.

      Their 4 most succesfull shows from the last decade (Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star vs. the Forces of Evil and Milo Murphy's Law) all ended against their creators wishes. Either the creators confessed it (in the case of Wander and Milo), or it was paintfully obvious that certain plot points were left unfinished or rushed (in the case of GF and especially Star vs.). And it all honestly feels like their justification for cancelling the shows is "Because it didn't get many views", and it's like, of course it wouldn't, it's on Disney XD a channel that always had a weaker audience compared to the Disney Channel. I hope to god, the DuckTales Reboot doesn't meet that same fate.

      Hopefully with the move to Disney+, most of these shows will get a better chance to have a better lifespan, altough I feel now their shows will be mostly overshadowed by the content of their theatrical devisions. Why would you bother to search for an animated TV show with weaker porduction values, when you got imidiate acess to all of the theatrical films produced by the two most respected and aclaimed theatrical animation studios in the world, the almost entirity of the most famous cinematic universe in history, and even everything from the Star Wars brand? If anything, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Disney TV animation is no longer a thing within 10 years, because of this.

      I know I'm probably coming out sounding a bit cynical, but that's because I really like the animated shows that Disney does. They're probably some of the strongest memories I have attached to this company. But when it feels like the fans care more about these shows the actual company making them, I can't help but feel a little disapointed.

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    • Milo Murphy's Law wasn't cancelled

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    • Carebearheart wrote:
      Milo Murphy's Law wasn't cancelled

      https://whatsondisneyplus.com/third-season-of-milo-murphys-law-only-possible-with-the-help-of-disney-viewers/

      From what the creators said, it might as well be.

      This was also the case with Wander, and nothing new came out of it by this point.

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    • it said they might make season 2 (which I know many of us want) if we watch it on Plus! (which I am doing)

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    • Carebearheart wrote:
      it said they might make season 2 (which I know many of us want) if we watch it on Plus! (which I am doing)

      Eh... Good luck with that. I want the show to continue as well, but I feel that's very unlikely. If Milo was on the same level of popularity as something like Kim Possible, or its predecessor Phineas and Ferb, I could see that happening. But as it is, I don't think it's gonna happen.

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    • Carebearheart wrote: Ducktales has a big fandom so i say they have break the 4 season rule for that show

      Same with Amphibia and The Owl House, both big stories that 4 seasons cannot cover

      You could just stop watching the show than to continuing watching a show that will soon get average and be subjected to mixed reviews later on. Did you watch the TMNT 2012 series? It had a big story and lasted 5 seasons, but the story had improper execution, combined with cheap quality CG, and a lighter tone compared to the darker tone of the previous TMNT media.

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    • Raymondsze wrote:

      Carebearheart wrote: Ducktales has a big fandom so i say they have break the 4 season rule for that show

      Same with Amphibia and The Owl House, both big stories that 4 seasons cannot cover

      You could just stop watching the show than to continuing watching a show that will soon get average and be subjected to mixed reviews later on. Did you watch the TMNT 2012 series? It had a big story and lasted 5 seasons, but the story had improper execution, combined with cheap quality CG, and a lighter tone compared to the darker tone of the previous TMNT media.

      That's more subjective. If your biggest issue is that you fear that the show is gonna have a drop in quality, you can just wait until the show finishes its run and then watch it in a much shorter time span, so that you don't get as disapointed if the ending of the show is underwhelming.

      For me it all depends if the creators of the show want to see the show continue, if they're still in control of it, and when they feel it's a good time to end. (Unless it's Butch Hartman)

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    • AKM221 wrote:

      I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Disney TV animation is no longer a thing within 10 years, because of this.

      I know I'm probably coming out sounding a bit cynical, but that's because I really like the animated shows that Disney does. They're probably some of the strongest memories I have attached to this company. But when it feels like the fans care more about these shows the actual company making them, I can't help but feel a little disapointed.

      Nos4
      Do I need to show you more evidence that this is probably the most negleged division within the company, and yet, I think it's the least flawed and restrained?
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    • Honestly, Elena ending at four seasons was my second prediction (five was my first!) but as long as Esteban redeems and Naomi comes back, I'll be fine with four seasons!

      Right now, the shows that I said definitely need to last five seasons are the new Ducktales, Amphibia, and The Owl House!

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    • MeadowFalls wrote:

      Theorodore12345 wrote: disney needs to stop with this i mean even the cartoons. i mean look at nick with there cartoons they last as long as the want 

      Yea be like spongebob it been running since 1999 and it’s still running! Even the creators don’t want it to end! They keep on saying “we will end it 2015,16,17 now it’s nearly 2018, Be like spongebob.

      Wrong, fans were never a priority to Nick since the mid 2000s. And with each new show they've made, it's like WhO aSkEd FoR tHiS?! It's Pony and The Casagrandes are shows that NO ONE asked for. Same applies to every new SpongeBob season.

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    • DisneyChannelStar14 wrote:

      DisneyChannelStar14 wrote: That's because it's not a full length series. It's only a short series which is acceptable. Still it was still broken. A full length Disney Channel show still needs to break the fourth season limit and I think this could be done by Andi Mack and/or Raven's Home.

      Andi Mack sadly didnt happen its a small possibility it could in the future thoo.......also Raven's Home has a chance nd Bunk'D is getting renewed for a fifth season so yaaaaaaaa.

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    • Andi Mack is missing tons of episodes on Disney+ so I feel like they probably won't even make a 4th season at this point. Disney+ only has 2 episodes in season 1, it's missing 13 episodes in season 2, and missing 5 episodes in season 3. Sure, they could just make 2 more seasons without ever mentioning that one character ever again but I don't know if that would work for the story. But since they know Disney+ is gonna take over in the future and they have no plans of ever including those missing episodes, I doubt anyone would watch the new seasons if they're missing out on so much stuff from the first 3 seasons.

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    • LaPrincess19Hi wrote:

      DisneyChannelStar14 wrote:

      DisneyChannelStar14 wrote: That's because it's not a full length series. It's only a short series which is acceptable. Still it was still broken. A full length Disney Channel show still needs to break the fourth season limit and I think this could be done by Andi Mack and/or Raven's Home.

      Andi Mack sadly didnt happen its a small possibility it could in the future thoo.......also Raven's Home has a chance nd Bunk'D is getting renewed for a fifth season so yaaaaaaaa.

      No one asked for this. Hmmm, we got not 1, not 2, but 6 different Nick shows that nobody wanted and cared for.

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    • AKM221 wrote:

      Raymondsze wrote:

      Carebearheart wrote: Ducktales has a big fandom so i say they have break the 4 season rule for that show

      Same with Amphibia and The Owl House, both big stories that 4 seasons cannot cover

      You could just stop watching the show than to continuing watching a show that will soon get average and be subjected to mixed reviews later on. Did you watch the TMNT 2012 series? It had a big story and lasted 5 seasons, but the story had improper execution, combined with cheap quality CG, and a lighter tone compared to the darker tone of the previous TMNT media.

      That's more subjective. If your biggest issue is that you fear that the show is gonna have a drop in quality, you can just wait until the show finishes its run and then watch it in a much shorter time span, so that you don't get as disapointed if the ending of the show is underwhelming.

      For me it all depends if the creators of the show want to see the show continue, if they're still in control of it, and when they feel it's a good time to end. (Unless it's Butch Hartman)

      I assumed this from the severe quality drop of SpongeBob and the Loud House, and the slow decline of quality at Cartoon Network due to being skewered too much to kids. But I think it is soon going to change for both networks now there is new leadership, the rise of streaming, and some new greenlits of shows, like Middlemost Post.

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    • Raymondsze wrote:

      AKM221 wrote:

      Raymondsze wrote:

      Carebearheart wrote: Ducktales has a big fandom so i say they have break the 4 season rule for that show

      Same with Amphibia and The Owl House, both big stories that 4 seasons cannot cover

      You could just stop watching the show than to continuing watching a show that will soon get average and be subjected to mixed reviews later on. Did you watch the TMNT 2012 series? It had a big story and lasted 5 seasons, but the story had improper execution, combined with cheap quality CG, and a lighter tone compared to the darker tone of the previous TMNT media.
      That's more subjective. If your biggest issue is that you fear that the show is gonna have a drop in quality, you can just wait until the show finishes its run and then watch it in a much shorter time span, so that you don't get as disapointed if the ending of the show is underwhelming.

      For me it all depends if the creators of the show want to see the show continue, if they're still in control of it, and when they feel it's a good time to end. (Unless it's Butch Hartman)

      I assumed this from the severe quality drop of SpongeBob and the Loud House, and the slow decline of quality at Cartoon Network due to being skewered too much to kids. But I think it is soon going to change for both networks now there is new leadership, the rise of streaming, and some new greenlits of shows, like Middlemost Post.

      To be fair, during the 2010s everyone was asking for pretty much nothing but tv shows that had a continuing story. Which meant shows like Wander Over Yonder and Milo Murphy's Law fell a bit by the wayside.

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    • There's still a chance that Milo could get a season 3.

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    • Phineas&Milo n Gravity Falls wrote:
      There's still a chance that Milo could get a season 3.

      that's what I'm hoping! At least start season 3 and see if it should continue from there! but just start Season 3!

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    • Disney: Quality is first Nickelodeon: Hold my LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR

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    • Yeah I have to admit, I do prefer Disney making high quality shows like Phineas and Ferb, Gravity Falls, Milo Murphy's Law, and DuckTales over Nickelodeon just canceling any show that isn't immediately as popular as Spongebob. And now they're making The Loud House their next big franchise because it already got a spin-off and it's getting a movie soon. So that if Spongebob does eventually fade out of popularity because all the spin-offs make it too over saturated, they have a backup plan.

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    • When I think of Nickelodeon's fandom, I compare it to the fans waiting on the launches of the N64 and the GameCube. There was lots of excitement on the shows, much like the console and the games. Unfortunately, due to many factors, they both ended up receiving lukewarm responses from the private and the public, leading to both of their gradual decline. Disney has not been known to do that.

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    • Wait so the Nintendo 64 didn't used to be popular? These days it seems like it's the most popular game console to ever exist.

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    • Phineas&Milo n Gravity Falls wrote: Wait so the Nintendo 64 didn't used to be popular? These days it seems like it's the most popular game console to ever exist.

      The N64 struggled to compete with the new console in town, the Sony PlayStation. Factors I cited for this include the use of cartridges over discs, limited third party titles, small launch lineup, and launching a year late than the competition. It was not looking good for Nintendo, as their next-gen handheld, codenamed Project Atlantis was already cancelled over a year after the N64 launched.

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    • I just heard they broke the four season rule for a disney channel sitcom! Sadly I don't like Bunk'd anymore

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    • Carebearheart wrote: I just heard they broke the four season rule for a disney channel sitcom! Sadly I don't Bunk'd anymore

      Then I have more reason to believe that the next show to break this rule is a cheap, low-quality comedy that is aimed at casuals only.

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    • But that's basically what Milo Murphy's Law is

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    • At least that's a show that deserves to break the rule!

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    • No, what I mean is shows that are not as complex, and have much dumbed-down formulas, like most modern Cartoon Network shows, such as Apple and Onion.

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    • Milo isn't complex. Even though they tried to have a continuous plot, you don't necessarily have to watch it in order to enjoy it.

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    • Action shows across all networks have been declining. Violence has been toned-down, their runtime has been cut down to 11-minutes, and the story and arcs have been greatly deemphasized.

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    • Raymondsze wrote:
      Action shows across all networks have been declining. Violence has been toned-down, their runtime has been cut down to 11-minutes, and the story and arcs have been greatly deemphasized.

      That's a problem! We need a bit action sometimes! Heart and Compassion doesn't always work, we to teach that (insist on mercy all the time is misleading to kids)!

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    • Tell that to Infinity Train, Star Wars: Resistance, Transformers Cyberverse, Star Trek: Prodigy, Spider-Man 2017, Big Hero 6, and Steven Universe (yes, I know Steven Universe has an 11-minute run time and a theme of nonviolence, but it also has a complex story arc, a mythology, etc.)

      If you include streaming series, the list is even bigger, with names like Fast and Furious: Spy Racers, Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous, Trollhunters, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, and The Dragon Prince. 

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    • Specboy93 wrote: Tell that to Infinity Train, Star Wars: Resistance, Transformers Cyberverse, Star Trek: Prodigy, Spider-Man 2017, Big Hero 6, and Steven Universe (yes, I know Steven Universe has an 11-minute run time and a theme of nonviolence, but it also has a complex story arc, a mythology, etc.)

      If you include streaming series, the list is even bigger, with names like Fast and Furious: Spy Racers, Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous, Trollhunters, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, and The Dragon Prince. 

      Steven Universe from its initial debut, looked like it was not made with a story in mind.

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