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    I hope I won't get carried away of this, but remember Disney shorts called Paperman and Feast that Disney used a new animated medium called a meander that used 2d and 3d at the same time and got their academy awards for them? Well, I wondering if Disney will ever use a meander for their future animated films. Of course, I found an article that says that they can no longer use in Paperman and Feast form, but use it as a library called Meanderkit. I don'tknow if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Anyway, there's been a fan speculation rumor saying the reason why Gigantic is delay to 2020 because it might be the first animated feature to be used a meander. I'm not 100% guaranteed that would be the case, but that's what I've heard. As much I thought Moana is a beautiful film and I'm glad they use some 2d animation in it, but I don't think that counts a meander film. Or does it? Anyway, what do you guys think?

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    • I would like to see it used, but it probably takes much longer to animate. Also, one of the main complaints about CGI is that the characters have unrealistic features, such as big eyes and small waists. In Paperman, the girl had the same features. Personally, I don't mind it, but some people will still make the same complaints. 

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    • I bet you're right about that. Chances are that the software is still in the "development" stage. In fact, the animators at WDAS actually ended up making Meander into a plug-in/toolkit so that it was easier for people to "make it their own", so to say. This move made WDAS win the Sci-Tech Academy Award. [1]

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    • Well, it's been five years now when Disney use a meander for shorts and they haven't use it for feature films yet. I don't know if I understand the article correctly, but it looks like they don't want use it in Paperman or Feast form. In fact, Inner Workings short doesn't look the same as Paperman and Feast. I wonder what cause the problem with the meander?

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    • TsWade2 wrote: Well, it's been five years now when Disney use a meander for shorts and they haven't use it for feature films yet. I don't know if I understand the article correctly, but it looks like they don't want use it in Paperman or Feast form. In fact, Inner Workings short doesn't look the same as Paperman and Feast. I wonder what cause the problem with the meander?

      Didn't you read the article? The Meander software is a plug-in, I don't think it was ever a stand-alone piece of software.

      While we're on the subject, has anybody ever checked out the latest version of Autodesk's SketchBook Pro? Autodesk is also the company that makes Maya, the industry-standard for CGi animation (meaning that practically every studio uses it for producing computer-generated three-dimensional animation graphics). There is a new(er) "flipbook" feature that is actually derived off of of one of Maya's popular features. Unlike Adobe Flash (now branded as Adobe Animate) or ToonBoom's Harmony software, which require having to learn computer programming, the flipbook feature is very old-school-meaning when you are done drawing one frame, you add another frame on top of it and start drawing--just like an animator would place another piece of paper on top of a paper animatic.

      Sorry if your head exploded in the process.

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    • EpixAndroid wrote:

      TsWade2 wrote: Well, it's been five years now when Disney use a meander for shorts and they haven't use it for feature films yet. I don't know if I understand the article correctly, but it looks like they don't want use it in Paperman or Feast form. In fact, Inner Workings short doesn't look the same as Paperman and Feast. I wonder what cause the problem with the meander?

      Didn't you read the article? The Meander software is a plug-in, I don't think it was ever a stand-alone piece of software.

      While we're on the subject, has anybody ever checked out the latest version of Autodesk's SketchBook Pro? Autodesk is also the company that makes Maya, the industry-standard for CGi animation (meaning that practically every studio uses it for producing computer-generated three-dimensional animation graphics). There is a new(er) "flipbook" feature that is actually derived off of of one of Maya's popular features. Unlike Adobe Flash (now branded as Adobe Animate) or ToonBoom's Harmony software, which require having to learn computer programming, the flipbook feature is very old-school-meaning when you are done drawing one frame, you add another frame on top of it and start drawing--just like an animator would place another piece of paper on top of a paper animatic.

      Sorry if your head exploded in the process.

      Well, I got OCD. It happens. So, what you're saying is Disney trying to create a new type of some sort of hand drawn animation kind of thing?

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    • TsWade2 wrote:

      Well, I got OCD. It happens. So, what you're saying is Disney trying to create a new type of some sort of hand drawn animation kind of thing?

      It's a theory of mine, not a fact.

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    • Disney's reported that they're still learning how to make Meander work for a full-length animated feature, as it takes a long process. Once they find a way to make it work, then there will be a full-length Meander-animated film.

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    • Guineapig361 wrote:
      Disney's reported that they're still learning how to make Meander work for a full-length animated feature, as it takes a long process. Once they find a way to make it work, then there will be a full-length Meander-animated film.

      I hope so. Maybe they should try it in Klaus style.

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