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  • BE94A35A-1992-4B2A-BA64-8BF528AA80C2

    So Cute

    This is a Club, focused mainly on the geeky cinnamon roll called Varian and how he would never be bad unless he is seriously occ. And also the scumbag we nicknamed Nigel. Anyone who loves Varian is free to join at anytime, but anyone who hates Varian’s comments will be deleted. I declare this club open!

    -Berry, founder of club
    

    Members:

    Berry(founder)

    Heather

    Katie

    Lillian

    Frie-ice

    Tangled (main fangirl)

    Lulu (theorist)

    Fire-snow

    Ponine

    Japan (eyes in the tumblr)

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    • I'm not much of a club person, but I am glad that there are people who still believe that there is good in Var (my little nickname for him, as my nickname for Vanellope von Schweetz is VV)!

      I hope that you get an army of members to support the club! On and so also that "Moon theory" that I had placed in the comments under the "Varian" page a while ago, that theory had also got a few fans to our young alchemist the nickname, Moon Varian.

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    • The Moon Varian theory is really interesting. I’m reading a fanfiction about it (http://archiveofourown.org/works/12875034/chapters/29764446) and it actually sort of makes sense.

      I just call him my lil’bro, due to the big sis feelings I have about him.

      And I hope we get an army of supporters too!

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    • Varian is love, Varian is life. XD You can count me in lol. *screams into pillow* 

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    • Varian is everything.

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    • He ROCKS count me double in!!
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    • Katie is cool wrote:

      He ROCKS count me double in!!
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      Will do!

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    • rapunzel deserves being used

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    • dont know why but he reminds me of anikan 


      when padame says " Theres still good in him"


      Theres still good in Varian!!

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    • Katie is cool wrote: rapunzel deserves being used

      Eh?

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    • Varian must have good in him

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    • Varian is the definition of good. He’s also the definition of wonderful, beautiful, cute, and FRICKIN ADORKABLE

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    • rapunzel betrayed varian!

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    • Rapunzel betrayed Varian. AGGG. WHY, RAPUNZEL, WHY??? WHY???

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    • He is FRICKEN ADORABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • AdorKable. A mix of adorable and dorky. Also known as Varian.

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    • in the episode " The alchemist returns" do you think he has a squeaky voice like that guard said?

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    • No. In a nutshell.

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    • But I bet his cookies are great.

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    • B0C1BBCC-F3B6-4FDF-9D08-D426663B4515

      Gret Cookies, Varian.

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    • Yeah his cookies are problebly really good

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    • Hey maybe he needs rapunzels tears!!!

      It has the sun drop!! He cant get her hair cause if he cuts it (if he even finds out how to) it loses its power

      He needs her tears!!!!
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    • His cookies:

      Evil Queen:*holding a tray of cookies expectantly* mirror mirror on the wall, who bakes the best cookies of them all?

      Mirror: Varian. Sorry, sweetie. A mirror can’t lie.

      Evil Queen: What? Aw!

      Varian: knew it.

      Pete: these are really good.

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    • LOL

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    • Katie is cool wrote: Hey maybe he needs rapunzels tears!!!

      It has the sun drop!! He cant get her hair cause if he cuts it (if he even finds out how to) it loses its power

      He needs her tears!!!!
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      There’s a theory that her tears aren’t magical, but because they passed through her hair (AKA: eyelashes) they got healing powers.

      But I don’t know if her healing powers work no more.

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    • Eh?!!

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    • Eh to what?

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    • i guess thats right!

      My tangled friend said the other theroe so I decided to see what you guys think of the theroe.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Eh to what?

      I DONT KNOW!!

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    • Theroe? Do you mean theory?

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    • YES!!!! theory


      SORRY!!

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    • Anycase, Varian needs Rapunzel. I’d happily help him kidnap her.

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    • ME TOO!!!!!!

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    • I would kidnap her her ten times over if it helped Varian and/or made him good again.

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    • I agree!! I would honestly KILL to make him good again!

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    • So would I! He’s like my little brother... I’d do anything for him!

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    • Yep

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    • Hey!! Last night I was in a Talent show thing! I sang " Let me make you proud" I won audience pleaser!!

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    • The judges loved the song!!

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    • Wow! Let me make you proud is such a good song.

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    • I've just heard about another Varian theory, that he may be a descendants of Lord Demanitus. The guy that built the device to defeat Zhan Tiri and imprisoned the warlord with his disciples.

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    • I have to admit I’ve never heard of Lord Demanitus, but if he made devices and looks like him I wouldn’t be suprised.

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    • Ohhhh! THAT Lord Demanitus! Yeah, I just assumed they were related and thought nothing of it XD

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    • Varian is not evil.

      My dad didn't think they should feel sorry for him. But he didn't see QFAD (queen for a day).

      Angry child (Varian's new nickname) forever! Who's with me?

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      • me at the end of "The Alchemist Returns"*

      Runs up to room and cries for thirty seconds then perks up. THERE IS STILL GOOD IN HIM!

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    • Of course he isn’t evil. Of COURSE he isn’t.

      And there is still good in him!

      Can you tell me what happens in Secret of the Sundrop? It hasn’t come out in my country, and I’m going to die if I don’t find out what happens to my lil’bro soon.

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    • He kidnapps the queen!

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    • Then he uses  Rapunzels hair and it doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    •  Angry and with nothing left to lose, he uses a giant automaton to attack, threatening to kill Cassandra and Arianna. Rapunzel, however, uses her connection to the black rocks to defeat Varian, who is arrested for his crimes and vows vengeance

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    • In a post-credits scene, a mysterious warrior arrives and uses a special sword to slice through the seemingly impenetrable black rocks. (I think Varian's mom)

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    • Okay. I have a "what if"

      So what if Varian got encased in the rocks instead of his dad? PLOT TWIST

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      AdorKable. A mix of adorable and dorky. Also known as Varian.

      Definition

      AdorKable-  A mix of adorable and dorky 

      synonyms- cutmart (cute and smart) Varain
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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: In a post-credits scene, a mysterious warrior arrives and uses a special sword to slice through the seemingly impenetrable black rocks. (I think Varian's mom)

      I’ve seen the picture of that in the gallery. What if she’s the Moon?

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: Okay. I have a "what if"

      So what if Varian got encased in the rocks instead of his dad? PLOT TWIST

      I would cry. And Rapunzel would officially be a beep to let her friend die.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: Then he uses  Rapunzels hair and it doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Agggggggggg

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    • Thanks for telling me.

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    • What if we were looking at it wrong? What if we need the moon?

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    • Varian is 

      40% adorable

      20% dorky

      20% angry

      10% broken

      9.99% lonely

      0.01% evil

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: Okay. I have a "what if"

      So what if Varian got encased in the rocks instead of his dad? PLOT TWIST

      I would cry. And Rapunzel would officially be a beep to let her friend die.

      Me too. I would cry and call Rapunzel a big meanie and I would never EVER trust her again.

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    • Varian is

      40% dorky

      10% broken

      50% adorable

      100% amazing

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Varian is everything.

      Yes. He is.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Varian is

      40% dorky

      10% broken

      50% adorable

      100% amazing

      But that doesn't = 100. it = 200

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    • Varian is

      100% Awesome, adorable, dorkey, and amazing 

      0% stupid, evil, mean, lier.

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    • Think....

      Vary and Cassie. Together.

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    • Cassarian.

      I think that’s an actual name.

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    • Cassie's a better name

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    • No!

      Cassarian.

      Cassandra

      Varian

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    • And I still love Cassie, I meant no as in “That’s not what I meant!”

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    • OH! Cassarian. Good name. How's it pronouced?

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    • Cass-ar-ee-an.

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    • okay. I was wondering where you got Cassarain from Cassie.

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    • And yes. It is a real name.

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    • Guess what :(

      My sister said Vary should die!

      And I was all like, "NO! Widdwe Varian Boo shouldn't die!"

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    • Tell your sister that she seems to show a strong desire to kill someone who’s only act of evil is wanting his father back.

      And kidnapping and stealing and stuff but whatever.

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    • REDEMPTION!!!!! ! Despite everything that happened from the alchemist returns to secret of the sundrop Varian still has good in him! 

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Tell your sister that she seems to show a strong desire to kill someone who’s only act of evil is wanting his father back.

      And kidnapping and stealing and stuff but whatever. </div>

      I know

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    • So. What if the person is the moon? And she's Var Var's mother.

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    • Okay.

      Nicknames for Varain.

      Vary

      Var Var

      Vary Woe

      Varian Boo

      Any others?

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    • Lil’bro (my personal nickname. He reminds me.)

      Rian

      My Precious Little Alchemist

      Vari

      Var

      V

      Va

      Varar

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Lil’bro (my personal nickname. He reminds me.)

      Rian

      My Precious Little Alchemist

      Vari

      Var

      V

      Va

      Varar

      AWWWW! (Awwww as in cute)

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Lil’bro (my personal nickname. He reminds me.)

      Rian

      My Precious Little Alchemist

      Vari

      Var

      V

      Va

      Varar

      Not My Precious Little Alchemist

      My Precious Widdwe Alchemist

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    • My pwecious widdle Alchemist

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      My pwecious widdle Alchemist

      YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Wait. No. My pwecious widdle Awchemist

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    • I just want to give him a hug! He needs one!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I just want to give him a hug! He needs one!

      Me too

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    • Alright

      BIG GROUP HUG

      //grabs Varian and hugs him\\

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Alright

      BIG GROUP HUG

      //grabs Varian and hugs him\\

      Hey! U left me out!

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    • u know who I really hate?

      Nigel.

      Five reasons

      1. He said Raps shouldn't go save her parents

      2. He's the one who made the gaurds take Var Var away

      3. He said Var Var was dangouse before anyone knew it

      4. When Var Var's dad said- lied he said they shouldn't give him more land

      and 5. He's accent is fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Alright

      BIG GROUP HUG

      //grabs Varian and hugs him\\

      Hey! U left me out!

      //grabs Tangled too\\

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: u know who I really hate?

      Nigel.

      Five reasons

      1. He said Raps shouldn't go save her parents

      2. He's the one who made the gaurds take Var Var away

      3. He said Var Var was dangouse before anyone knew it

      4. When Var Var's dad said- lied he said they shouldn't give him more land

      and 5. He's accent is fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I agree. He claimed My Lil’Bro ATTACKED Rapunzel. HE WAS ON HIS FLIPPING HANDS AND KNEES. HE WAS BEGGING AND CRYING. THAT IS L I T E R A L L Y THE OPPOSITE OF ATTACKING SOMEONE.

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    • Heck yeah! This is all his fault!!! Varian Should have kill him instead.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      In a post-credits scene, a mysterious warrior arrives and uses a special sword to slice through the seemingly impenetrable black rocks. (I think Varian's mom)

      Agreed.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: u know who I really hate?

      Nigel.

      Five reasons

      1. He said Raps shouldn't go save her parents

      2. He's the one who made the gaurds take Var Var away

      3. He said Var Var was dangouse before anyone knew it

      4. When Var Var's dad said- lied he said they shouldn't give him more land

      and 5. He's accent is fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I agree. He claimed My Lil’Bro ATTACKED Rapunzel. HE WAS ON HIS FLIPPING HANDS AND KNEES. HE WAS BEGGING AND CRYING. THAT IS L I T E R A L L Y THE OPPOSITE OF ATTACKING SOMEONE.

      IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF ATTACKING SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Okay.

      Definition of attack


      at·tackəˈtak/

      verb 

      1. 1.take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.   


      Antonyms= Protection

      He was asking for PROTECTION!

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    • Nigel.




























      GET YOUR STUPID FACTS RIGHT, YOU IDIOT! AND LEAVE VARIAN ALONE, OR GOD HELP YOU!




























      Jerk.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Nigel.



























      GET YOUR STUPID FACTS RIGHT, YOU IDIOT! AND LEAVE VARIAN ALONE, OR GOD HELP YOU!




























      Jerk.

      Yes. Leave Var Var alone. OR ELSE..................................

      FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF Berry, Heather, Katie, Lillian, Frie-iceLulu, Fire-snow and Tangled (me)

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    • THERE ARE EIGHT OF US, ONE OF YOU, AND OUR HANDBRAKE LEFT LAST WEDNESDAY.

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    • Nigel is a sorry excsuse for a human being. HE was the ine who summoned the guards to DRAG Varian out of the palace! "Your higness Varian is dangerous. Remember how he attacked you during the storm!" Thanks to you Nigel and your false and silly rumor all of Corona turned their backs on Varian-you made this entirley possible! KMOW WHAT I THINK?! INSTEAD OF QUEEN ARIANNA NIGEL SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO VARIAN SHOULD HAVE ATTEMPTED TO INCASE IN THE CRYSTAL AMBER!!! HE DESERVES IT!!!!

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      THERE ARE EIGHT OF US, ONE OF YOU, AND OUR HANDBRAKE LEFT LAST WEDNESDAY.

      Handbrake?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Nigel is a sorry excsuse for a human being. HE was the ine who summoned the guards to DRAG Varian out of the palace! "Your higness Varian is dangerous. Remember how he attacked you during the storm!" Thanks to you Nigel and your false and silly rumor all of Corona turned their backs on Varian-you made this entirley possible!

      YES HE DID! Okay Var Var, don't take revenge on the rest of Corona....... TAKE REVENGE ON NIGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

      Who agrees with me?

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    • ME.

      NIGEL, YOU ARE WHY A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD IS IN PRISON FOR KIDNAPPING, TREASON, STEALING, ATTEMPTED MURDER, AND BEING BROKEN BY THE REDT OF CORONA.

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    • So Lil’Bro, Take it out on Nigel of the Jerk Guild.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      So Lil’Bro, Take it out on Nigel of the Jerk Guild.

      YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • YES!!!!! DESTROY NIGEL!!!!!

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    • Although some of this does is Rapunzel's fault as well-she could have stood up to Nigel and reminded him who was in charge and that if she wanted to help Varian she could have. Not to mention she let the guards drag him out. She isn't even acknowledging her part in Varian's downfall!!! When the King blamed himself for Arianna's kidnapping Rapunzel blamed Varian and the rocks!



      Well I have two questions:


      Who touched the rocks: Rapunzel.

      Who helped  Varian turn towards darkness: Rapunzel.




      Thus who is responsible for Varian and the rocks? Rapunzel.


      I don't want to dislike Rapunzel but she betrayed Varian!!! 

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    • I hope Varian isn't in prison forever!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I hope Varian isn't in prison forever!

      me too

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Although some of this does is Rapunzel's fault as well-she could have stood up to Nigel and reminded him who was in charge and that if she wanted to help Varian she could have. Not to mention she let the guards drag him out. She isn't even acknowledging her part in Varian's downfall!!! When the King blamed himself for Arianna's kidnapping Rapunzel blamed Varian and the rocks!



      Well I have two questions:


      Who touched the rocks: Rapunzel.

      Who helped  Varian turn towards darkness: Rapunzel.




      Thus who is responsible for Varian and the rocks? Rapunzel.


      I don't want to dislike Rapunzel but she betrayed Varian!!! 

      true. But she couldn't leave the kingdom

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    • Yes but at the very least she could have checked up on him after the blizzard was over. (Who knows maybe she could have made it before "I'll make you proud reprise") or at least before the part where he became angry. The first time I watched that episode I was in complete disbelief as I saw that last scene unfold. But I still believe there is good in him nonetheless. I don't care if he makes the castle explode, destroys Corona I'll ALWAYS forgive him! Why? Because behind all that pain and anger he's always been the sweeet kind hearted boy we first met. His emotions are only human. I remember that one scene when Rapunzel's hair didn't free his father-he was devastated I felt so bad for him in that moment-he's a good kid! He doesn't deserve to go through such pain.

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    • I feel like it was a puppet thing. Rapunzel was the one who said that she couldn't help Varian but Nigel helped push that foward. Varian is mad at Rapunzel because she broke her promise but Nigel was like the puppet master pullling the strings. Just like in a puppet show Varian only saw the puppet (Rapunzel) and not the puppet master (Nigel). He helped persuade her decision to deny Varian help. And even afterwards he spread a rumor about Varian attacking Rapunzel so thanks to Nigel there was nobody else he could go to either! He's the reason Varian's going to prison and for his current emotional state. To sum it up, he just ruined Varian's life.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I feel like it was a puppet thing. Rapunzel was the one who said that she couldn't help Varian but Nigel helped push that foward. Varian is mad at Rapunzel because she broke her promise but Nigel was like the puppet master pullling the strings. Just like in a puppet show Varian only saw the puppet (Rapunzel) and not the puppet master (Nigel). He helped persuade her decision to deny Varian help. And even afterwards he spread a rumor about Varian attacking Rapunzel so thanks to Nigel there was nobody else he could go to either! He's the reason Varian's going to prison and for his current emotional state. To sum it up, he just ruined Varian's life.

      Agreed.


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    • I think I’m going to change the main post.

      But long and short of it:

      Nigel sucks.

      Varian rules.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      I think I’m going to change the main post.

      But long and short of it:

      Nigel sucks.

      Varian rules.

      That RIGHT!!

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      I think I’m going to change the main post.

      But long and short of it:

      Nigel sucks.

      Varian rules.

      yes.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      Alright

      BIG GROUP HUG

      //grabs Varian and hugs him\\

      Hey! U left me out!
      //grabs Tangled too\\

      yippie!

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:

      BE94A35A-1992-4B2A-BA64-8BF528AA80C2

      So Cute

      This is a Club, focused mainly on the geeky cinnamon roll called Varian and how he would never be bad unless he is seriously occ. And also the scumbag we nicknamed Nigel. Anyone who loves Varian is free to join at anytime, but anyone who hates Varian’s comments will be deleted. I declare this club open!

      -Berry, founder of club
      

      Members:

      Berry(founder)

      Heather

      Katie

      Lillian

      Frie-ice

      Tangled

      Lulu

      Fire-snow

      Changes.

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    • R they making a second season? And if so when does it come out?

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    • Yes they are. The date hasn't been released yet.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Yes they are. The date hasn't been released yet.

      Okay. I hope soon. Maybe march? Since that's when the first season came out.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:

      Berry of the RainWings wrote:

      BE94A35A-1992-4B2A-BA64-8BF528AA80C2

      So Cute

      This is a Club, focused mainly on the geeky cinnamon roll called Varian and how he would never be bad unless he is seriously occ. And also the scumbag we nicknamed Nigel. Anyone who loves Varian is free to join at anytime, but anyone who hates Varian’s comments will be deleted. I declare this club open!

      -Berry, founder of club
      

      Members:

      Berry(founder)

      Heather

      Katie

      Lillian

      Frie-ice

      Tangled

      Lulu

      Fire-snow

      Changes.

      can we nickname Nigel,

      "Mean guy who made Var Var mean" or for short

      MGWMVVM

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    • no. Too long.

      Nag.

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    • I'm fine with just calling him a poor excuse for a human being/Royal advisor.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I'm fine with just calling him a poor excuse for a human being/Royal advisor.

      But get it?

      Nag. He's a big nag

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    • My hopes for season 2:

      1.Quirin gets freed

      2.Varian and Qurin are reunited (father son moment)

      3.Varian reconciles with Rapunzel and becomes good again.


      PS Yeah I also want to know who the mysterious worrior is but Varian's happiness and redemption is a priority. When he's happy I'll be happy too.

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    • So today in ELA, we had a warm up. And it was free choice!

      So, with Var Var and everything else on my mind I wrote a story about it. But because we had to share and I didn't want people making fun of me I couldn't metion their names. So, without further a do...

      Smoke and dust filled the air as I sneak out, hidden in the shadows. I didn’t really need the shadows, but better safe than sorry. I was super close to getting out, about five or so feet when I heard the awful noise. My stomach dropped and I didn’t even need to turn around. The castle was gone and it was all my fault. Wait. No her fault. She asked for it. She should have helped, but no. She “ had to put the kingdom first”. As if I wasn’t important. I was her friend. And I’ll never trust her again. Ever. She was probably heartbroken. Ha. Severs her right. But then an awful awful thought crossed my mind. What if she died? “Nah.” I mumbled, “She’s too smart.” But still. I sighed and forced myself to turn around. I saw the burnt castle. Just like I thought. But I saw four people, there should be five. Who was missing. They were too far away to tell and I won’t risk going any closer either.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      My hopes for season 2:

      1.Quirin gets freed

      2.Varian and Qurin are reunited (father son moment)

      3.Varian reconciles with Rapunzel and becomes good again.


      PS Yeah I also want to know who the mysterious worrior is but Varian's happiness and redemption is a priority. When he's happy I'll be happy too.

      me too

      But with the help of the mysterious warrior

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    • I vote Scumbag as nickname.

      Nice! It’s so beautiful and sad at the same time... :’)

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    • Cool-though I hope he wouldn't go that far-you think he'll be in season 2?

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      I vote Scumbag as nickname.

      Nice! It’s so beautiful and sad at the same time... :’)

      u now my fave part of Scum? His voice! It totally fits him. and do u like my story?

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    • Agreed! Scumbag is the perfect name for him! I like your story-hopefully Varian won't go that far-but I'd forgive him for anything-anything bad he does is because of the amount of pain in his heart.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      My hopes for season 2:

      1.Quirin gets freed

      2.Varian and Qurin are reunited (father son moment)

      3.Varian reconciles with Rapunzel and becomes good again.


      PS Yeah I also want to know who the mysterious worrior is but Varian's happiness and redemption is a priority. When he's happy I'll be happy too.

      me too

      But with the help of the mysterious warrior

      I'm actually hoping that Varian will help defeat her (I think it's a her).

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      I vote Scumbag as nickname.

      Nice! It’s so beautiful and sad at the same time... :’)

      u now my fave part of Scum? His voice! It totally fits him. and do u like my story?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Agreed! Scumbag is the perfect name for him! I like your story-hopefully Varian won't go that far-but I'd forgive him for anything-anything bad he does is because of the amount of pain in his heart.

      yes. Agreed

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      My hopes for season 2:

      1.Quirin gets freed

      2.Varian and Qurin are reunited (father son moment)

      3.Varian reconciles with Rapunzel and becomes good again.


      PS Yeah I also want to know who the mysterious worrior is but Varian's happiness and redemption is a priority. When he's happy I'll be happy too.

      me too

      But with the help of the mysterious warrior

      I'm actually hoping that Varian will help defeat her (I think it's a her).

      but what if it his mom? U want him defeat his mom?!

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    • Does anybody think we'll see Varian in season 2? I sure hope so. I'm worried because of two things: Rapunzel is on a journey and Varuan is in jail. How is he supposed to make an appearance if he's in jail? Or I thought of so,ething even worse-In "One angry princess" Attila was accused of Vandalisim of Monty's Sweetshop. As punishment they would have sent him away from Corona! They aren't going to do that to Varian are they?! 

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Does anybody think we'll see Varian in season 2? I sure hope so. I'm worried because of two things: Rapunzel is on a journey and Varuan is in jail. How is he supposed to make an appearance if he's in jail? Or I thought of so,ething even worse-In "One angry princess" Attila was accused of Vandalisim of Monty's Sweetshop. As punishment they would have sent him away from Corona! They aren't going to do that to Varian are they?! 

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      My hopes for season 2:

      1.Quirin gets freed

      2.Varian and Qurin are reunited (father son moment)

      3.Varian reconciles with Rapunzel and becomes good again.


      PS Yeah I also want to know who the mysterious worrior is but Varian's happiness and redemption is a priority. When he's happy I'll be happy too.

      me too

      But with the help of the mysterious warrior

      I'm actually hoping that Varian will help defeat her (I think it's a her).
      but what if it his mom? U want him defeat his mom?!

      I don't think it's his mom-but at the same time we don't know that's falsee either. I don't think so considering the fact that his dad is trapped he might be happy with another parental figure. But if she goes against something he stands for (like freeing his dad) than maybe he would. But I don't think its his mom-different hair color and her skin is darker.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Does anybody think we'll see Varian in season 2? I sure hope so. I'm worried because of two things: Rapunzel is on a journey and Varuan is in jail. How is he supposed to make an appearance if he's in jail? Or I thought of so,ething even worse-In "One angry princess" Attila was accused of Vandalisim of Monty's Sweetshop. As punishment they would have sent him away from Corona! They aren't going to do that to Varian are they?! 
      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Took the words right out of my mouth. Hopefully they won't. The king said he would get Varian help and it's hard to get somebody help if you send them away. Who knows maybe if the King keeps his word to Rapunzel and says something to Varian like you're lucky that the princess told me to go easy on you or else it would be much worse maybe that would help him regain his trust in Rapunzel. probably not. She's going to have to do something big llike saving his life if he's going to ever trust her again. I just hope we see him again in season 2. But I hope they don't send him away!!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! DON'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND PRISON!!! AND LET HIM OUT EARLY!!!!!! HE CAN TURN AROUND I KNOW IT!!!!!!!!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Does anybody think we'll see Varian in season 2? I sure hope so. I'm worried because of two things: Rapunzel is on a journey and Varuan is in jail. How is he supposed to make an appearance if he's in jail? Or I thought of so,ething even worse-In "One angry princess" Attila was accused of Vandalisim of Monty's Sweetshop. As punishment they would have sent him away from Corona! They aren't going to do that to Varian are they?! 
      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Took the words right out of my mouth. Hopefully they won't. The king said he would get Varian help and it's hard to get somebody help if you send them away. Who knows maybe if the King keeps his word to Rapunzel and says something to Varian like you're lucky that the princess told me to go easy on you or else it would be much worse maybe that would help him regain his trust in Rapunzel. probably not. She's going to have to do something big llike saving his life if he's going to ever trust her again. I just hope we see him again in season 2. But I hope they don't send him away!!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! DON'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND PRISON!!! AND LET HIM OUT EARLY!!!!!! HE CAN TURN AROUND I KNOW IT!!!!!!!!

      YES! SAVE HIS LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait! Why would she have to save his life?

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    • What if Var Var's mom left him when he was younger, and he's angry with her? AND THE WARRIOR IS HIS MOM AND HE GET'S ANGRY WITH HER?

      And that's why Quirin is disappointed in him!( cause he thinks it's Var Var's fault)

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    • I think his mom is dead. I think the reason for Quirin's disapointment in Varian is because of how his expieriments cause destruction to the village. I actually think Quirin's freedom is the first stepping stone to Varian being redeemed. I think he is the only one who can talk sense into Varian and help remove the darkness from his heart. I actually have two theories about Varian's redemption and how that might happen. WARNING! ONE OF THE TWO THEORIES IS DARK. But not tragic so don't worry.

      Varian's farther gets freed in one way or another and of course he wonders where Varian is so he goes to the castle where he meets with King Fredrick who tells him of his son's misdeeds. There's a father and son moment but Quirin admits to Varian his disappointment in his actions which hits Varian hard and he realizes the errors of his ways but Quirin also blames himself for not telling his son the truth sooner. So he tells Varian all about the Organization and Varian suspects that Rapunzel might be in danger. So he stops at his lab in Old Corona after escaping but notices the path that the rocks made. He doesn't know why but he knows of their connection to Rapunzel and follows the path. Meanwhile Rapunzel and the gang are being attacked by the warrior and she is just about to strike them down when Varian saves them and after that there are hugs and heartfelt apologizes exchanged on both sides. Later at the palace Rapunzel vouches for Varian's bravery and character and he is pardoned of his crimes.




      The warrior is someone who used to work with Quirin in the past and she frees him but she (I think she is a she) views him as a traitor for leaving the organization so she wants to get revenge and tells him she is going to kill Varian as revenge for Quirin leaving the organization. So after a bit of searching she eventually makes it to the Castle and disguises as a guard telling the Captain that the King requested her to check up on Varian but she doesn't know where his cell is so he takes her to Varian's cell where Varian asks her what she wants with him she tells him"everything" she explains that she used to work with his father who Varian explains is trapped in an amber crystal and she tells him that she freed him...only so he could watch his son die. Just as she raises her sword for the first and fatal blow Rudiger  jumps on her head clawing and biting etc. so she throughs him to the side and prepares to strike again but Rapunzel and her friends along with Quirin come just in time. A major battle takes place but meanwhile Varian's father is free, Rapunzel came to save Varian when he needed it, and to top it off is the undeniable proof that not everyone in Corona had turned their backs on him as Varian had originally thought thus abolishing his desire/need for revenge. Meanwhile his father is busy fighting the warrior and Varian, who does not want to lose his father a second time helps. His anger gone, and finally seeing how bad his actions were through those of the warrior, tries to persuade her to put an end to her desire for revenge but she refuses and the guards who hear the commotion going on arrives but she escapes.  After that Varian gets cleared of all charges when Rapunzel vouches for him.

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    • Me like both, even though I'll cry for either one.

      SOB FEST!

      And to say that books and movies don't make me cry that much. I don't know why.

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    • Thanks!! That's ok-I don't get that emotional either.

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    • That is unless Varian gets redeemed-I won't cry but It'll get me emotional-but at least my brain won't be in a state of shock (similary to after Queen for a day). I don't think any of us will ever forget that episode. 

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    • I miss the good, sweet, kind Varian. It breaks my heart to see him in such pain.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I miss the good, sweet, kind Varian. It breaks my heart to see him in such pain.

      me too :(

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      That is unless Varian gets redeemed-I won't cry but It'll get me emotional-but at least my brain won't be in a state of shock (similary to after Queen for a day). I don't think any of us will ever forget that episode. 

      yes. No one will.

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    • Even if Varian and Rapunzel forgive each other do you think they'll want to be friends-I feel like Rapunzel might want to be-but so much has happpened between them that even if he makes ammends with Rapunzel she left a big scar on him-I don't know if he would want to rekindle that friendship after all that happened and a tiny part of him still  wants to avoid getting hurt. Although I really do hope they become actual friends again.

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    • I finally got to watch Secret of the Sundrop and for once I'm not too in shock to cry. ;_; How does that adorkable little blockhead think that hurting the princess would made his dad proud?! DX DX 

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    • Heather the dragon rider wrote:
      I finally got to watch Secret of the Sundrop and for once I'm not too in shock to cry. ;_; How does that adorkable little blockhead think that hurting the princess would made his dad proud?! DX DX 

      i don't know.

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    • He's too angry and hurt to understand. That happened after Rapunzel's hair didn't work-that was his last hope-he was devastated and he saw the family hugging after being reunited-that's what he had hoped for after his father had been freed. 

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Even if Varian and Rapunzel forgive each other do you think they'll want to be friends-I feel like Rapunzel might want to be-but so much has happpened between them that even if he makes ammends with Rapunzel she left a big scar on him-I don't know if he would want to rekindle that friendship after all that happened and a tiny part of him still  wants to avoid getting hurt. Although I really do hope they become actual friends again.

      yeah. I agree. They might become "friends". Like saying hi and things like that, but I don't think they'll ever be real friends again if u know what I mean.

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    • In my opion the secrt of the sundrop frustrated me-the entire group went about EVERYTHING THE WRONG WAY. What Varian needs is to be understood. For someone to show that they CARE about him. To let him know that he's not alone. If they wanted to diminish the threat he held to the kingdom that's what they should have done. Plus I'm worried about Varian being in prison...there are criminals who are much more sinister and devious than Varian-The Stabbinton brothers, Lady Kaine and her gang of theives. They would LOVE to take advantage of a fourteen year old boy. The Stabbington brothers would beat him to a pulp and Lady Kaine would either mock him or try to get him to join forces due to their..um similar grudges against the royal family. But maybe if he spends enough time with them and he'll eventually reliaze that they weren't his true friends and he'll relize that Rapunzel and the gang are. He should't be in prison when there are ten times more dangerous crooks than himselves-the reason he was able to do all he did was bcause he was in his lab and had his suupplies-this tim there are no robots or alchemic substances he can use to defend himself. They should have thought about his safety as well as his punishment.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Even if Varian and Rapunzel forgive each other do you think they'll want to be friends-I feel like Rapunzel might want to be-but so much has happpened between them that even if he makes ammends with Rapunzel she left a big scar on him-I don't know if he would want to rekindle that friendship after all that happened and a tiny part of him still  wants to avoid getting hurt. Although I really do hope they become actual friends again.
      yeah. I agree. They might become "friends". Like saying hi and things like that, but I don't think they'll ever be real friends again if u know what I mean.

      Yeah- that's what I was thinking-they might be friendly towards each other without anymore animosity-but in Varian's case the damage has been done-I don't know if Varian would want to be buddy-buddies again-he wouldn't want to be hurt-maybe when enough time has passed-maybe he might want to rekindle it but in these cases you can never tell. I think Rapunzel would accept his decision but would feel a twinge of sadness as well.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Even if Varian and Rapunzel forgive each other do you think they'll want to be friends-I feel like Rapunzel might want to be-but so much has happpened between them that even if he makes ammends with Rapunzel she left a big scar on him-I don't know if he would want to rekindle that friendship after all that happened and a tiny part of him still  wants to avoid getting hurt. Although I really do hope they become actual friends again.
      yeah. I agree. They might become "friends". Like saying hi and things like that, but I don't think they'll ever be real friends again if u know what I mean.
      Yeah- that's what I was thinking-they might be friendly towards each other without anymore animosity-but in Varian's case the damage has been done-I don't know if Varian would want to be buddy-buddies again-he wouldn't want to be hurt-maybe when enough time has passed-maybe he might want to rekindle it but in these cases you can never tell. I think Rapunzel would accept his decision but would feel a twinge of sadness as well.

      yeah.

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    • I want Rapunzel and Varian to become friends again but before ANYTHING happens-in his current state he won't listen or care what anybody says but I believe if he reunites with his father he could let go of those feelings of anger and accept his defeat-his dad is disapointed in him but partly blames himself for not telling Varian about about the organization but still wants to make his father proud so he helps/saves Rapunzel-but whether they become friends again or not I don't know (but I don't think Quirin would be upset if Varian didn't become friends with Rapunzel again as long as he makes things right with her). But what do you all think? If Varian and Rapunzel were to become friends  again what do you think would have to happen in order for them to rekindle their friendship?

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    • While it's possible for Varian to regain his trust in not only Rapunzel but in others it won't be an easy process and he certainly won't want to do it volantarily. Not without a motivation. If Varian's father is freed I think he would want Varian to trust people again. There's only one problem-that filthy scumbag Nigel no matter what Varian does it won't make much diffrence since nobody trusts  him-how is he supposed to trust people if people don't trust him since he apparently "attacked the princess." Thank you Nigel-you just made a difficult task harder. Which is why he might want to work with Rapunzel. Besides Varian Rapunzel is the only one who knows what happened. If Varian were to reconcile this is how I would imagine it. Once again-thank you Nigel, for spreadinga aflase rumor and turning all of Corona against a fourteen year old boy who feels all alone in the world.

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    • I don’t think there’s anyone here who actually likes Nigel.

      Poor Varian. I believe there’s still good in him. I have to admit, if I was in his situation I’d’ve done a loooot worse than what he did.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote:
      I don’t think there’s anyone here who actually likes Nigel.

      Poor Varian. I believe there’s still good in him. I have to admit, if I was in his situation I’d’ve done a loooot worse than what he did.

      How worse?

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    • Probably close to murdering someone to get my family back close?

      My Plan:

      (Please note none of this will come close to happening, because I do not live in a magical realm with a healing Princess.)

      1. Trick Rapunzel into coming to my house with Flynn and Cassie

      2. Capture Flynn and Cassie and threaten to kill them if Raps doesn’t do as I say

      3. Make Raps work her magic on the amber

      4. When that doesn’t work, make her find another solution

      5. If she can’t think of one kill her and her friends

      6. Kill myself

      However, none of this will even come close to happening in my world, I must add.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I think his mom is dead. I think the reason for Quirin's disapointment in Varian is because of how his expieriments cause destruction to the village. I actually think Quirin's freedom is the first stepping stone to Varian being redeemed. I think he is the only one who can talk sense into Varian and help remove the darkness from his heart. I actually have two theories about Varian's redemption and how that might happen. WARNING! ONE OF THE TWO THEORIES IS DARK. But not tragic so don't worry.

      Varian's farther gets freed in one way or another and of course he wonders where Varian is so he goes to the castle where he meets with King Fredrick who tells him of his son's misdeeds. There's a father and son moment but Quirin admits to Varian his disappointment in his actions which hits Varian hard and he realizes the errors of his ways but Quirin also blames himself for not telling his son the truth sooner. So he tells Varian all about the Organization and Varian suspects that Rapunzel might be in danger. So he stops at his lab in Old Corona after escaping but notices the path that the rocks made. He doesn't know why but he knows of their connection to Rapunzel and follows the path. Meanwhile Rapunzel and the gang are being attacked by the warrior and she is just about to strike them down when Varian saves them and after that there are hugs and heartfelt apologizes exchanged on both sides. Later at the palace Rapunzel vouches for Varian's bravery and character and he is pardoned of his crimes.




      The warrior is someone who used to work with Quirin in the past and she frees him but she (I think she is a she) views him as a traitor for leaving the organization so she wants to get revenge and tells him she is going to kill Varian as revenge for Quirin leaving the organization. So after a bit of searching she eventually makes it to the Castle and disguises as a guard telling the Captain that the King requested her to check up on Varian but she doesn't know where his cell is so he takes her to Varian's cell where Varian asks her what she wants with him she tells him"everything" she explains that she used to work with his father who Varian explains is trapped in an amber crystal and she tells him that she freed him...only so he could watch his son die. Just as she raises her sword for the first and fatal blow Rudiger  jumps on her head clawing and biting etc. so she throughs him to the side and prepares to strike again but Rapunzel and her friends along with Quirin come just in time. A major battle takes place but meanwhile Varian's father is free, Rapunzel came to save Varian when he needed it, and to top it off is the undeniable proof that not everyone in Corona had turned their backs on him as Varian had originally thought thus abolishing his desire/need for revenge. Meanwhile his father is busy fighting the warrior and Varian, who does not want to lose his father a second time helps. His anger gone, and finally seeing how bad his actions were through those of the warrior, tries to persuade her to put an end to her desire for revenge but she refuses and the guards who hear the commotion going on arrives but she escapes.  After that Varian gets cleared of all charges when Rapunzel vouches for him.

      okay. I do have a few questions for the last one. So does Quirin know Var Var is gonna die? If so, Why would he let it happen? And where are they? And where is Quirin during this? 

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    • Does anyone else think that Queen For A Day is like frozen?

      King and queen go away and somthing bad happens.

      Gaint blizzard.

      Queen has hard chioces.

      Someone nearly dies.

      Anyone?

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    • Frozen? What do you mean?

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    • What do u mean?

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    • What do you mean, Queen for a day is frozen?

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    • I said LIKE frozen. It's like frozen.

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    • not is

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I think his mom is dead. I think the reason for Quirin's disapointment in Varian is because of how his expieriments cause destruction to the village. I actually think Quirin's freedom is the first stepping stone to Varian being redeemed. I think he is the only one who can talk sense into Varian and help remove the darkness from his heart. I actually have two theories about Varian's redemption and how that might happen. WARNING! ONE OF THE TWO THEORIES IS DARK. But not tragic so don't worry.

      Varian's farther gets freed in one way or another and of course he wonders where Varian is so he goes to the castle where he meets with King Fredrick who tells him of his son's misdeeds. There's a father and son moment but Quirin admits to Varian his disappointment in his actions which hits Varian hard and he realizes the errors of his ways but Quirin also blames himself for not telling his son the truth sooner. So he tells Varian all about the Organization and Varian suspects that Rapunzel might be in danger. So he stops at his lab in Old Corona after escaping but notices the path that the rocks made. He doesn't know why but he knows of their connection to Rapunzel and follows the path. Meanwhile Rapunzel and the gang are being attacked by the warrior and she is just about to strike them down when Varian saves them and after that there are hugs and heartfelt apologizes exchanged on both sides. Later at the palace Rapunzel vouches for Varian's bravery and character and he is pardoned of his crimes.




      The warrior is someone who used to work with Quirin in the past and she frees him but she (I think she is a she) views him as a traitor for leaving the organization so she wants to get revenge and tells him she is going to kill Varian as revenge for Quirin leaving the organization. So after a bit of searching she eventually makes it to the Castle and disguises as a guard telling the Captain that the King requested her to check up on Varian but she doesn't know where his cell is so he takes her to Varian's cell where Varian asks her what she wants with him she tells him"everything" she explains that she used to work with his father who Varian explains is trapped in an amber crystal and she tells him that she freed him...only so he could watch his son die. Just as she raises her sword for the first and fatal blow Rudiger  jumps on her head clawing and biting etc. so she throughs him to the side and prepares to strike again but Rapunzel and her friends along with Quirin come just in time. A major battle takes place but meanwhile Varian's father is free, Rapunzel came to save Varian when he needed it, and to top it off is the undeniable proof that not everyone in Corona had turned their backs on him as Varian had originally thought thus abolishing his desire/need for revenge. Meanwhile his father is busy fighting the warrior and Varian, who does not want to lose his father a second time helps. His anger gone, and finally seeing how bad his actions were through those of the warrior, tries to persuade her to put an end to her desire for revenge but she refuses and the guards who hear the commotion going on arrives but she escapes.  After that Varian gets cleared of all charges when Rapunzel vouches for him.

      okay. I do have a few questions for the last one. So does Quirin know Var Var is gonna die? If so, Why would he let it happen? And where are they? And where is Quirin during this? 

      Yes. The warrior tells Quirin how angry she is with him for leaving the organization and tells him that she is going to kill Varian as revenge. I assume that she would be too fast for Quirin to stop physically and he would have no idea where Varian is in the first place. The battle takes place in Varian's cell where Quirin arrives with Rapunzel and her friends to stop the warrior. 

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Does anybody think we'll see Varian in season 2? I sure hope so. I'm worried because of two things: Rapunzel is on a journey and Varuan is in jail. How is he supposed to make an appearance if he's in jail? Or I thought of so,ething even worse-In "One angry princess" Attila was accused of Vandalisim of Monty's Sweetshop. As punishment they would have sent him away from Corona! They aren't going to do that to Varian are they?! 
      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Took the words right out of my mouth. Hopefully they won't. The king said he would get Varian help and it's hard to get somebody help if you send them away. Who knows maybe if the King keeps his word to Rapunzel and says something to Varian like you're lucky that the princess told me to go easy on you or else it would be much worse maybe that would help him regain his trust in Rapunzel. probably not. She's going to have to do something big llike saving his life if he's going to ever trust her again. I just hope we see him again in season 2. But I hope they don't send him away!!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! DON'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND PRISON!!! AND LET HIM OUT EARLY!!!!!! HE CAN TURN AROUND I KNOW IT!!!!!!!!

      I think we all know it

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Does anybody think we'll see Varian in season 2? I sure hope so. I'm worried because of two things: Rapunzel is on a journey and Varuan is in jail. How is he supposed to make an appearance if he's in jail? Or I thought of so,ething even worse-In "One angry princess" Attila was accused of Vandalisim of Monty's Sweetshop. As punishment they would have sent him away from Corona! They aren't going to do that to Varian are they?! 
      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Took the words right out of my mouth. Hopefully they won't. The king said he would get Varian help and it's hard to get somebody help if you send them away. Who knows maybe if the King keeps his word to Rapunzel and says something to Varian like you're lucky that the princess told me to go easy on you or else it would be much worse maybe that would help him regain his trust in Rapunzel. probably not. She's going to have to do something big llike saving his life if he's going to ever trust her again. I just hope we see him again in season 2. But I hope they don't send him away!!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! DON'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND PRISON!!! AND LET HIM OUT EARLY!!!!!! HE CAN TURN AROUND I KNOW IT!!!!!!!!
      I think we all know it

      Yep-we all know it-Iv'e NEVER had so much hope for anybody to reform in my life. But I'm worried that the Writers have other plans for him-so far theyv'e been doing a good job of dashing my hopes. I hoped they would have redeemed him in the season finale and they didn't. Now it looks like Rapunzel won't even be in Corona. Although I'll always have hope that he'll be redeemed-he's not a bad person-he has good motives.

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    • I added more to my story.

      I turned and quickly raced home. By the time I got there, my face was bright red and my legs were throbbing. “Hi. I missed you. How’s it been?” I asked the house as if it were a real thing, “Yeah. It been- awful.” I walked over to the door and struggled to open it. “Come on.” I groaned, it didn’t open. I sighed and collapsed to the ground. My hands covered my face. Of course they locked me out. How did they get the key? Sure we were friends, but I never gave her a key. Why would I? So, how did they lock it? I started crying. I just want to go home. Is it that hard to ask? I guess so. I made one mistake -fine a few- and my life was ruined! “V?” I lifted my head up. How? No, it can’t. She never called me “V”. I saw someone standing in the shadows. Mom.

      “Hey V. I missed you!” Mom smiled, walking towards me. I fought the urge to groan. I waited too soon to look down. I glared at the ground. “Did you miss me too?” She asked. I gave her a glare, “No. I didn’t.” She frowned, “Of course you did!” My eyes flashed, “NO! You left when I was-” I stopped and made a face, as if I had to think. “When I was four. That was ten years ago. TEN!” I turned away, glaring at the ground. “V….” She began. “No. Leave. I hate you. Why did you leave? Why? Dad was devastated! You crushed him! Go! LEAVE!” I was screaming. “V…” She began again. “LEAVE ME ALONE! AND DON’T CALL ME “V”. CAll me-” I stopped, I wasn’t yelling anymore, I was crying. “Go. Please.” I mumbled through my tears, “Just. Go.”

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    • Wow! I love your continuation! It’s fantastic!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Wow! I love your continuation! It’s fantastic!

      thank you!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Wow! I love your continuation! It’s fantastic!
      thank you!

      Your welcome! Varian is such a great character-I'm suprised more people haven't done fanfictions about him lately. 

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    • I have an awful thought. What if Nigel decides to create a little "accident" for Vary.

      You know, like getting rid of him or making it look like he hurt Raps or the queen or someone, so the king would get rid of him.

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    • I have another question for what you want to happen. Does Vary know he's going to die?

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: I have an awful thought. What if Nigel decides to create a little "accident" for Vary.

      You know, like getting rid of him or making it look like he hurt Raps or the queen or someone, so the king would get rid of him.


      In my opinion Nigel has already done enough damage to Varian’s life. He’d better not!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: I have another question for what you want to happen. Does Vary know he's going to die?

      No. Since Quirin never told Varian about the organization or his affiliations with it. So he wouldn’t know anything about the warrior or that/why she’s after him.

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    • k

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    • If that's what you were wondering about.

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    • it was.

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    • Great!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: Does anyone else think that Queen For A Day is like frozen?

      King and queen go away and somthing bad happens.

      Gaint blizzard.

      Queen has hard chioces.

      Someone nearly dies.

      Anyone?


      You know this reminded me of another Frozen comparison I heard about. Except it was comparing Varian to Prince Hans! I disagree because Prince Hans was always evil from the very beginning when Varian was only hurt and felt betrayed (and is not evil). Hans had an evil agenda (to become King) Varian on the other hand has a good and selfless agenda (to free his father). Which is why I think it’s an inaccurate and ridiculous comparison. If anything it’s villains like Hans who remind me that Varian is not evil!

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    • Varian reminds me very much of Anna.

      An adorable, dorky adolescent with a different coloured streak in their hair, who wants to be loved by their family. They are betrayed by someone they trust, namely a beautiful royal, and because of them they need to go on a mission to save the only remaining member of their family. They fall in love with a tough manly fighter.

      Anna or Varian?

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    • I actually think you have a point-Anna is also somewhat looked down upon by the people of Arendelle and wants recognition-similarly to Varian. Although I don’t think Varian has fallen in love with a manly fighter-unless you’re referring to a love possibly between Varian and our mysterious warrior???

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    • Cassandra.

      But Mystery Warrior X Varian seems very interesting...

      I must resist the call of the keyboard...

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    • I don’t ship him and the warrior-she’s looks WAY older than him. I don’t know how that slipped my mind. Hopefully he can repair his relationship with her Rapunzel and Eugene.

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    • yeah

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    • I hope he makes an appearance next season-the show just wouldn’t be the same without him.

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    • yeah,it won't. 

      I asked my sister how she would feel if something happened to var var-like him being taking away- and she said she would laugh! But would start crying.

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    • Your sister obviously thinks Varian is “evil.” Did you tell her the extent of Varian’s plight? Did she ever see Queen for a day?

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    • You know-those frozen comparisons from earlier actually made me think of someone from the show who would be the perfect impartial mediator for Rapunzel and Varian: Elsa.


      1.She knows the stress and burdens of being Queen and the decisions that come with it.

      2.She also knows the pain of losing a parent and would be able to understand the lengths one would go to get their one remaining family member back.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Your sister obviously thinks Varian is “evil.” Did you tell her the extent of Varian’s plight? Did she ever see Queen for a day?

      she did. She's just....

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    • Just what?

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    • Emotionless?

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    • Perhaps-I honestly don’t know how anybody who saw Queen for a day could not want to give Varian a big hug!!!!!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Perhaps-I honestly don’t know how anybody who saw Queen for a day could not want to give Varian a big hug!!!!!

      I agree.

      Emotionless?

      Maybe

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I have an awful thought. What if Nigel decides to create a little "accident" for Vary.

      You know, like getting rid of him or making it look like he hurt Raps or the queen or someone, so the king would get rid of him.

      In my opinion Nigel has already done enough damage to Varian’s life. He’d better not!

      If he does, they we'll have to attack him. (attack Nigle) 

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    • HE’S the one who’s emotionless.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      HE’S the one who’s emotionless.

      yes. he is

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    • Anyone who cannot feel an ounce of compassion for Varian and what he’s going through (the majority of Corona) is emotionless.



      Was I the only one who internally cringed every single time people said “the threat of Varian” in the secret of the sundrop?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Anyone who cannot feel an ounce of compassion for Varian and what he’s going through (the majority of Corona) is emotionless.


      Was I the only one who internally cringed every single time people said “the threat of Varian” in the secret of the sundrop?

      no

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Anyone who cannot feel an ounce of compassion for Varian and what he’s going through (the majority of Corona) is emotionless.


      Was I the only one who internally cringed every single time people said “the threat of Varian” in the secret of the sundrop?

      no


      I was very troubled by that episode. I mean nobody (except the Queen) showed any compassion towards Varian or his situation. Not even Rapunzel Eugene and Cassandra. Wasn’t he their friend once? They sure didn’t act like he was.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Anyone who cannot feel an ounce of compassion for Varian and what he’s going through (the majority of Corona) is emotionless.


      Was I the only one who internally cringed every single time people said “the threat of Varian” in the secret of the sundrop?

      no

      I was very troubled by that episode. I mean nobody (except the Queen) showed any compassion towards Varian or his situation. Not even Rapunzel Eugene and Cassandra. Wasn’t he their friend once? They sure didn’t act like he was.

      ik!

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    • So many times I was waiting for Rapunzel to say something to Varian but nope. Didn’t happen. Not to mention that they led an assault to his lab! They wanted to diminish the threat?! Then talking to him would have been the best way to do so! Varian is angry and he is going to find get back with every inch of his anger, resentment and pain. Which he did. They approached it the wrong way.

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    • I'm sure that Varian will not be bad for long. He's the type of person that's easy to redeem.

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    • Yes I agree- he is very redeemable-what people need to realize is that every smirk, every glare is a mask. A mask to hide just how much he's hurting.

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    • I haven't been keeping up with the series, and even I'm concerned about the little guy. What's up with that?

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    • Up with what?

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    • Sorry, I guess I'm just a bit confused about how I'm concerned when I don't know the entirety of what's going on, or something.

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    • Did you see Queen for a day?

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    • I haven't. Sorry. I just know about things from the recent Wiki activity and this thread.

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    • Oh than you might want to see that episode or else nothing will make sense-or if you haven’t watched the Tangled Series than you might want to watch the pilot along with the entirety of season 1. It’s really good.

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    • I. N E E D. T H I S
      E13E4488-C5F1-4699-BADB-6DC05F03681E

      Neeeeed...

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    • Why do you call him Var, Vary, and Var-Var?

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    • I love these little comic things! They’re very funny. There’s only one little problem with this one-filling the space next to my heart isn’t enough!

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    • Does anyone have a Deviantart account? If so, we beg you to go onto this (https://dizziepie38.deviantart.com/art/Varian-Plushies-4-Sale-726194962) link and order one for each club member.

      No one will ever replace My Lil’bro.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Oh than you might want to see that episode or else nothing will make sense-or if you haven’t watched the Tangled Series than you might want to watch the pilot along with the entirety of season 1. It’s really good.

      I'm sure it is. I have seen a few episodes and I've enjoyed them, but I'm not sure when the show is on or anything.

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    • Poninefreak wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Oh than you might want to see that episode or else nothing will make sense-or if you haven’t watched the Tangled Series than you might want to watch the pilot along with the entirety of season 1. It’s really good.

      I'm sure it is. I have seen a few episodes and I've enjoyed them, but I'm not sure when the show is on or anything.

      That’s ok I’m not either so I watch them online.

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    • What sites do you use?

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    • I’ve used plenty but the one I’m currently using and recommend is Kim cartoons. They have all the season 1 episodes uploaded. So you can catch up on all the episodes you missed.

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    • Great! Thanks! ;)

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    • You’re very welcome!

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    • Varian is 100% Sympathatic to me. I don't understand how no one can't feel anything for him. Just because of what he did I can maybe understand being Mad at him but seriously he's the one who's suffering the most.

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote: Varian is 100% Sympathatic to me. I don't understand how no one can't feel anything for him. Just because of what he did I can maybe understand being Mad at him but seriously he's the one who's suffering the most.

      I know right?! That’s EXACTLY how I feel-ecspecially after the season finale. Everybody was treating Varian like he was a monster or something. When in truth he’s only a fourteen year old boy who feels all alone in the world. Every time a person said “the threat of Varian” I felt uncomfortable. As you said he’s the one who’s suffering the most. How would they like it if their father was trapped in indestructible amber?! Whomever can’t feel compassion towards Varian must be soulless!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: Varian is 100% Sympathatic to me. I don't understand how no one can't feel anything for him. Just because of what he did I can maybe understand being Mad at him but seriously he's the one who's suffering the most.

      I know right?! That’s EXACTLY how I feel-ecspecially after the season finale. Everybody was treating Varian like he was a monster or something. When in truth he’s only a fourteen year old boy who feels all alone in the world. Every time a person said “the threat of Varian” I felt uncomfortable. As you said he’s the one who’s suffering the most. How would they like it if their father was trapped in indestructible amber?! Whomever can’t feel compassion towards Varian must be soulless!

      Agreed! ANYONE WHO DOESN'T FEEL BAD FOR VARIAN IS SOULLESS! (I'm talking to you Nigel.)
      ​​​​

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    • Unfortunately this now goes beyond only Nigel-because Nigel spread the rumor about Varian now nobody in Corona feels anything for him!😡😡

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Unfortunately this now goes beyond only Nigel-because Nigel spread the rumor about Varian now nobody in Corona feels anything for him!😡😡


      ​​​​​​I REALLY HATE NIGEL THROUGH

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Unfortunately this now goes beyond only Nigel-because Nigel spread the rumor about Varian now nobody in Corona feels anything for him!😡😡


      ​​​​​​I REALLY HATE NIGEL THROUGH


      Yep. We all do. He’s the one who should go to prison while writing the lines: I must not spread rumors. I runined the life of an innocent fourteen year old boy who never did anything to me.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Unfortunately this now goes beyond only Nigel-because Nigel spread the rumor about Varian now nobody in Corona feels anything for him!😡😡


      ​​​​​​I REALLY HATE NIGEL THROUGH


      Yep. We all do. He’s the one who should go to prison while writing the lines: I must not spread rumors. I runined the life of an innocent fourteen year old boy who never did anything to me.


      Yeah. I must not spread rumors. 10,100 times and then another 10,100 times backwards.

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    • Ok-this is how I view Varian’s mindset and situation. When Varian went to Rapunzel for help she turned him down. Nigel spread a rumor in Corona thus turning everyone else against him as well. So I think that Varian is like “well my friend turned me back on me when I needed her along with the rest of Corona so I have to do this myself.” I don’t think Varian wants to go down this path as evidenced by his voice cracking and facial expression during “As ready as I’ll ever be.” He feels resigned to it. But he’s also mad at all of Corona so he doesn’t care if they suffer by his actions. Varian also wants to make his father proud of him but I find that when you’re angry your actions become somewhat blurred to yourself which is why he hasn’t thought about the fact that his actions wouldn’t make his father proud.


      There are two things that I think need to happen for Varian to turn back. His father needs to be freed and reunited with Varian. I think just his fathers presence will destroy the dam that Varian his built hiding his emotions and he’ll do something that he’s needed to do for a long time. Let his emotions out while recieving the love and comfort he’s needed for a long time. Of course Quirin will ask Varian why he did what he did and Varian will say he did it to free his father and make him proud. While I think his father would be touched and appreciate the lengths Varian went for him I don’t think he would dismiss his son’s actions any less. He’d ask what made Varian think that he would be proud of him for those actions. I think this would hurt Varian very much. But Varian would explain how all of Corona turned their backs on him and how he felt all alone. While I don’t think just meets no his dad will solve all his trust problems I think it would help him understand the weight of his actions and encourage him to make things right. While I don’t think he’ll forgive Rapunzel right away I believe being reunited with his father would have calmed him down enough to listen to Rapunzel. And then he’ll understand that she wanted to help him all along. Thus rekindling their friendship. I believe that even if Varian and the rest of Corona are still at odds with each other that making amends with Rapunzel will be a step in the right direction and a big step towards learning to trust people again.

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    • Ok-relax-Varian totally isn’t going to be exsecuted for his crimes right?!?!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Unfortunately this now goes beyond only Nigel-because Nigel spread the rumor about Varian now nobody in Corona feels anything for him!😡😡


      ​​​​​​I REALLY HATE NIGEL THROUGH


      Yep. We all do. He’s the one who should go to prison while writing the lines: I must not spread rumors. I runined the life of an innocent fourteen year old boy who never did anything to me.


      Yeah. I must not spread rumors. 10,100 times and then another 10,100 times backwards.

      With Umbridge's Black Quill?

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    • Absolutely! It should be a permanent reminder of what he did!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Ok-relax-Varian totally isn’t going to be exsecuted for his crimes right?!?!


      NOOOOOO?

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Ok-relax-Varian totally isn’t going to be exsecuted for his crimes right?!?!


      NOOOOOO?



      He’d better not-I want him in future seasons! But I don’t know-he’s arrested-that doesn’t mean it’s hus final appearance in the show right?

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    • I mean-I’ve never believed that someone could be redeemed so much in my life! The show has already had a couple of slip ups concerning Varian’s “villain persona.” He nearly regretted his actions in the alchemist returns (if only Eugene and Cassandra hadn’t barged in the wrong time). Then we saw his facial features and voice crack during the song “Ready as I’ll ever be” Villians NEVER show any regret/doubt in a movie ECSPECIALLY during a song!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I mean-I’ve never believed that someone could be redeemed so much in my life! The show has already had a couple of slip ups concerning Varian’s “villain persona.” He nearly regretted his actions in the alchemist returns (if only Eugene and Cassandra hadn’t barged in the wrong time). Then we saw his facial features and voice crack during the song “Ready as I’ll ever be” Villians NEVER show any regret/doubt in a movie ECSPECIALLY during a song!

      IK. Cassie and Eugene did barge in at the worst possible time!

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I mean-I’ve never believed that someone could be redeemed so much in my life! The show has already had a couple of slip ups concerning Varian’s “villain persona.” He nearly regretted his actions in the alchemist returns (if only Eugene and Cassandra hadn’t barged in the wrong time). Then we saw his facial features and voice crack during the song “Ready as I’ll ever be” Villians NEVER show any regret/doubt in a movie ECSPECIALLY during a song!

      IK. Cassie and Eugene did barge in at the worst possible time!


      Yeah-Varian was JUST about to change his mind! But I still believe that there’s good in him.

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    • I just want him nice again

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

      yeah

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I mean-I’ve never believed that someone could be redeemed so much in my life! The show has already had a couple of slip ups concerning Varian’s “villain persona.” He nearly regretted his actions in the alchemist returns (if only Eugene and Cassandra hadn’t barged in the wrong time). Then we saw his facial features and voice crack during the song “Ready as I’ll ever be” Villians NEVER show any regret/doubt in a movie ECSPECIALLY during a song!

      I KNOW Right. Disney never makes thier Villians Symphathatic or ever this Likable and Loveable. and we never get to Know them before they become this way. Varian is a Tragic character that we Love. I Just want him to get his Happy ending. But I'm Afraid what they have Planed for him. Varian is nothing like the other Villians. I Actually care and am Rooting for him. That Never Happens.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

      yeah


      If this were logic than Quirin would be dead. But this is Disney. I don’t think they would kill him off. What do you think?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

      yeah


      If this were logic than Quirin would be dead. But this is Disney. I don’t think they would kill him off. What do you think?


      ​​​​​​if they kill him off, I'll trow the remote across the room and scream

      "HOW COULD YOU? TANGLED WAS ONE OF THE ONLY PRINCESS MOVIES THAT BOTH PARENTS WERE STILL ALIVEl NOW YOU GONNA KILL SOMEONE'S PARENT? WHAT'S WITH DISNEY KILLING OFF PARENTS?"

      under breath

      "calm down. calm down. calm-

      Screaming

      "NOPE. CAN'T CALM DOWN."

      • Cries*
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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I mean-I’ve never believed that someone could be redeemed so much in my life! The show has already had a couple of slip ups concerning Varian’s “villain persona.” He nearly regretted his actions in the alchemist returns (if only Eugene and Cassandra hadn’t barged in the wrong time). Then we saw his facial features and voice crack during the song “Ready as I’ll ever be” Villians NEVER show any regret/doubt in a movie ECSPECIALLY during a song!

      I KNOW Right. Disney never makes thier Villians Symphathatic or ever this Likable and Loveable. and we never get to Know them before they become this way. Varian is a Tragic character that we Love. I Just want him to get his Happy ending. But I'm Afraid what they have Planed for him. Varian is nothing like the other Villians. I Actually care and am Rooting for him. That Never Happens.

      I know-I feel the same way-I want him to get a happy ending and I fear either what they have planned for him or if they never show him in the series again. Surely they wouldn’t make Varuan THIS likable and sympathetic if they had no plans for a redemption? Think of it. Scar, Prince Hans, Maleficent, Hades. They are pure evil villians with absolutely no noble intentions and never falter in their goals. Varian isn’t like them. At all.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

      yeah


      If this were logic than Quirin would be dead. But this is Disney. I don’t think they would kill him off. What do you think?


      ​​​​​​if they kill him off, I'll trow the remote across the room and scream

      "HOW COULD YOU? TANGLED WAS ONE OF THE ONLY PRINCESS MOVIES THAT BOTH PARENTS WERE STILL ALIVEl NOW YOU GONNA KILL SOMEONE'S PARENT? WHAT'S WITH DISNEY KILLING OFF PARENTS?"

      under breath

      "calm down. calm down. calm-

      Screaming

      "NOPE. CAN'T CALM DOWN."

      • Cries*


      I would scream NO! He was Varian’s only hope of being redeemed. You really do want to make Varian’s life more miserable don’t you Disney? Hasn’t he suffered enough?!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

      yeah


      If this were logic than Quirin would be dead. But this is Disney. I don’t think they would kill him off. What do you think?


      ​​​​​​if they kill him off, I'll trow the remote across the room and scream

      "HOW COULD YOU? TANGLED WAS ONE OF THE ONLY PRINCESS MOVIES THAT BOTH PARENTS WERE STILL ALIVEl NOW YOU GONNA KILL SOMEONE'S PARENT? WHAT'S WITH DISNEY KILLING OFF PARENTS?"

      under breath

      "calm down. calm down. calm-

      Screaming

      "NOPE. CAN'T CALM DOWN."

      • Cries*


      I would scream NO! He was Varian’s only hope of being redeemed. You really do want to make Varian’s life more miserable don’t you Disney? Hasn’t he suffered enough?!

      point? Disney really likes killing parents.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote: I just want him nice again

      Me too. There are days when I don’t know what to think-they made his arrest seem so...final. At the same time though-they showed in secret of the sundrop that he held some doubts at what he was doing. Why would they make us feel sorry for him if they weren’t going to redeem him? I certainly feel like they have future plans to free Quirin. I thought so as soon as Rapunzel’s hair didn’t work. Then there was the mysterious warrior woman and her sword that could break the black rocks-not to mention the fact that they revealed that Quirin was the one who warned the King about the flower-I’m sure they have plans for him-and surely if they have plans for him I can’t imagine how they couldn’t have any for Varian.

      yeah


      If this were logic than Quirin would be dead. But this is Disney. I don’t think they would kill him off. What do you think?


      ​​​​​​if they kill him off, I'll trow the remote across the room and scream

      "HOW COULD YOU? TANGLED WAS ONE OF THE ONLY PRINCESS MOVIES THAT BOTH PARENTS WERE STILL ALIVEl NOW YOU GONNA KILL SOMEONE'S PARENT? WHAT'S WITH DISNEY KILLING OFF PARENTS?"

      under breath

      "calm down. calm down. calm-

      Screaming

      "NOPE. CAN'T CALM DOWN."

      • Cries*


      I would scream NO! He was Varian’s only hope of being redeemed. You really do want to make Varian’s life more miserable don’t you Disney? Hasn’t he suffered enough?!

      point? Disney really likes killing parents.


      Yeah but this one would hit me even harder because we hardly ever know how they die. Also his son worked so hard-am I the only one who feels like this series just wants to make Varian’s life more and more miserable? They’d better not kill Quirin!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I mean-I’ve never believed that someone could be redeemed so much in my life! The show has already had a couple of slip ups concerning Varian’s “villain persona.” He nearly regretted his actions in the alchemist returns (if only Eugene and Cassandra hadn’t barged in the wrong time). Then we saw his facial features and voice crack during the song “Ready as I’ll ever be” Villians NEVER show any regret/doubt in a movie ECSPECIALLY during a song!

      I KNOW Right. Disney never makes thier Villians Symphathatic or ever this Likable and Loveable. and we never get to Know them before they become this way. Varian is a Tragic character that we Love. I Just want him to get his Happy ending. But I'm Afraid what they have Planed for him. Varian is nothing like the other Villians. I Actually care and am Rooting for him. That Never Happens.

      I know-I feel the same way-I want him to get a happy ending and I fear either what they have planned for him or if they never show him in the series again. Surely they wouldn’t make Varuan THIS likable and sympathetic if they had no plans for a redemption? Think of it. Scar, Prince Hans, Maleficent, Hades. They are pure evil villians with absolutely no noble intentions and never falter in their goals. Varian isn’t like them. At all.


      I’m just worried that they either aren’t going to show him in the series or that he is going to become more like a sidekick villain or one filler episode who gets defeated easily like Lady Caine and/or Mrs. Sugarby (not that I dislike their characters). I just don’t want them to do that with Varian.

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    • SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

      I read a couple of her comments but nothing beyond calling him evil which I disagree with-did she say anything worse than that? What did she say exactly?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      BESIDES HER SAYING THAT IT WAS VARIAN’S FAULT THAT HE TURNED TO DARKNESS?!?! IT WASN’T HIS FAULT HE WAS PUSHED!!!


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

      I read a couple of her comments but nothing beyond calling him evil which I disagree with-did she say anything worse than that? What did she say exactly?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:


      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      BESIDES HER SAYING THAT IT WAS VARIAN’S FAULT THAT HE TURNED TO DARKNESS?!?! IT WASN’T HIS FAULT HE WAS PUSHED!!!


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

      I read a couple of her comments but nothing beyond calling him evil which I disagree with-did she say anything worse than that? What did she say exactly?



      read the one with my comment i'm lovejapan55

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    • Wait-I Jersey st looked over more of her comments did she just blame Varian for his turn to darkness?!?! That wasn’t his fault he was pushed towards it!!!

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:


      LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      BESIDES HER SAYING THAT IT WAS VARIAN’S FAULT THAT HE TURNED TO DARKNESS?!?! IT WASN’T HIS FAULT HE WAS PUSHED!!!


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

      I read a couple of her comments but nothing beyond calling him evil which I disagree with-did she say anything worse than that? What did she say exactly?



      read the one with my comment i'm lovejapan55

      Yes I know who you are do not worry;) but I’m afraid I didn’t see which one.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:


      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      BESIDES HER SAYING THAT IT WAS VARIAN’S FAULT THAT HE TURNED TO DARKNESS?!?! IT WASN’T HIS FAULT HE WAS PUSHED!!!


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

      I read a couple of her comments but nothing beyond calling him evil which I disagree with-did she say anything worse than that? What did she say exactly?



      read the one with my comment i'm lovejapan55

      Yes I know who you are do not worry;) but I’m afraid I didn’t see which one.


      lYeah I'm Sorry it's jUST hard to get out of my head I'm am not the type the person who can easily forget and not let something bother me i've strugled with that for years I can't let this go. I just I tried not leeting the other stuff bother me and i was able to let it go easier but this is something I will not stand for.  is other Using That word with Him. HE IS NOT LIKE THAT! I can't let this go uinless it gone from my mind but how do I forget this

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      I usually ignore the comments because despite what anybody else says I know he’s good and that’s what matters and I kept hope for his redemption.

      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote: SOMEBODY ON Youtube [http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7G4c7Bk4] said The most crulest of Things about Varian her name is April Zanganeh. It PISSES ME OFF THE MOST More than people calling Him Evil or a monster HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER HE IS JUST A KID And he is only doing this To Save his dad And Make him proud. He is only motivated from His Pain. He is NOT Irredimable. HE is REdemable their is a soul in him he Is SUFFERING THE MOST. He Does LOVE HIS DAD. Their is good in him He Feels Regret and Hessiatate doing things he WOULDn't do that. JUST STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT!  I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE THAT'S NOT RIGH TO SAY ABOUT HIM ITS NOT RIGHT


      BESIDES HER SAYING THAT IT WAS VARIAN’S FAULT THAT HE TURNED TO DARKNESS?!?! IT WASN’T HIS FAULT HE WAS PUSHED!!!


      I know-I hate it when people say stuff like that about Varian and call him evil. I’ve heard people call his downfall slipping into “madness” or “insanity” if he was he wouldn’t be feeling any doubt or regret. I feel like people are misinterpreting him and his actions.

      did you read it cause it WAS Crossing A HUGE LIne That I Can't Ignore  and I Just want to frget all that  was said But I don't think I Can How am I Supose To Surive now with that Pice of BULLSHIT IN MY Auitistic MIND!

      I read a couple of her comments but nothing beyond calling him evil which I disagree with-did she say anything worse than that? What did she say exactly?



      read the one with my comment i'm lovejapan55

      Yes I know who you are do not worry;) but I’m afraid I didn’t see which one.


      lYeah I'm Sorry it's jUST hard to get out of my head I'm am not the type the person who can easily forget and not let something bother me i've strugled with that for years I can't let this go. I just I tried not leeting the other stuff bother me and i was able to let it go easier but this is something I will not stand for.  is other Using That word with Him. HE IS NOT LIKE THAT! I can't let this go uinless it gone from my mind but how do I forget this

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    • I usually ignore the comments despite how angry they get me because I know that there is good in him and that he is good and keep hope for his redemption and that they are wrong.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I usually ignore the comments despite how angry they get me because I know that there is good in him and that he is good and keep hope for his redemption and that they are wrong.

      yeah usually it takes time for me to get over something but I just don't know about this one. I Just Love Varian So Much I Can't stand others saying things that are far from being True. i just want to be sane again.

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    • I just don’t understand how or why people can’t find it in their hearts to feel sorry for him. Why they can’t that there’s still so, so much good in him!

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    • You know-I was just listening to soundtrack for this scene from The Lion King and It instantly reminded me of a perfect senario involving three characters from Tangled who, in this scene would fit the situation and personalities, and even dialouge that might be spoken from the three  Tangled characters:



      Mufasa (Quirin)

      Simba (Varian)

      Rafiki (Xavier)




      Here's the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqQ2mQV5b0w 

      \\

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    • Poor varian!!



      Sorry I have not been on for like months it feels!

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    • Katie! You’re back!

      Welcome back to the Fandom! It feels like you haven’t been on in months to me too!

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    • Katie is cool wrote:
      Poor varian!!


      Sorry I have not been on for like months it feels!

      How longe were u away?

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    • long

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    • I've been too Emotional Over Varian. Ever vsince Queen for a day twords Secret of the sundrop I've been worried about him and they just kept making it worse Usully when I get atached to a new favriote Character I don't get this worked up and Emotional aching for them And Usully those favriotes are Protonigsts so I shouldn't be that upset over them espsially If thier Disney Protonigst. The only other character I've evry been this heartbroken about Is Allen Walker from D.Gray.Man. But He's also a Protonigst But The Manga is A Tragedy I knew that when I got in the Story So At Least I was Prepared espisally when the Auther Hints at A Tragic Ending. But With Varian It's Just More Diffrent He's Not Even A Main Character. So Of Course I'm More Worried and Heartbroken and Protictive of Him. And I don't Know If it will Just get more worse for Him Cause I Remember What Chris Sonderberg The Creater of This series said in an Interview That what Rapunzel does will efect Varian I Think I'm afraid of reading it again. He also said we're all fans of Varian and Rapunzel He Even Liked a tweet I did Defending Him. But That was before secret of the Sundrop and After The Alchemist Returns so it had my Hopes up. And Now I Just Don't know if I Can Rally Trust The Wrters on this. I Love Varian so Much I Want Him To Get His Happy Ending. But I don't think I Can Handel getting My Hopes up for that again. I don't Want Hi To Suffer anymore He Deserves A Happy Ending More Then Anyone. I Just don't Know how much more I Can Take. All This waiting and suspense and worring is driving me Nuts, driving me back to a mindset I thought was Past me

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:
      I've been too Emotional Over Varian. Ever vsince Queen for a day twords Secret of the sundrop I've been worried about him and they just kept making it worse Usully when I get atached to a new favriote Character I don't get this worked up and Emotional aching for them And Usully those favriotes are Protonigsts so I shouldn't be that upset over them espsially If thier Disney Protonigst. The only other character I've evry been this heartbroken about Is Allen Walker from D.Gray.Man. But He's also a Protonigst But The Manga is A Tragedy I knew that when I got in the Story So At Least I was Prepared espisally when the Auther Hints at A Tragic Ending. But With Varian It's Just More Diffrent He's Not Even A Main Character. So Of Course I'm More Worried and Heartbroken and Protictive of Him. And I don't Know If it will Just get more worse for Him Cause I Remember What Chris Sonderberg The Creater of This series said in an Interview That what Rapunzel does will efect Varian I Think I'm afraid of reading it again. He also said we're all fans of Varian and Rapunzel He Even Liked a tweet I did Defending Him. But That was before secret of the Sundrop and After The Alchemist Returns so it had my Hopes up. And Now I Just Don't know if I Can Rally Trust The Wrters on this. I Love Varian so Much I Want Him To Get His Happy Ending. But I don't think I Can Handel getting My Hopes up for that again. I don't Want Hi To Suffer anymore He Deserves A Happy Ending More Then Anyone. I Just don't Know how much more I Can Take. All This waiting and suspense and worring is driving me Nuts, driving me back to a mindset I thought was Past me



      I know how you feel-it's been driving me crazy-I'm worried for him too and with every passing episode Iv'e found it harder to trust the writers as well. Did he say that Rapunzel's actions will affect Varian before or after Queen for a day?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      LoveJapan55 wrote:
      I've been too Emotional Over Varian. Ever vsince Queen for a day twords Secret of the sundrop I've been worried about him and they just kept making it worse Usully when I get atached to a new favriote Character I don't get this worked up and Emotional aching for them And Usully those favriotes are Protonigsts so I shouldn't be that upset over them espsially If thier Disney Protonigst. The only other character I've evry been this heartbroken about Is Allen Walker from D.Gray.Man. But He's also a Protonigst But The Manga is A Tragedy I knew that when I got in the Story So At Least I was Prepared espisally when the Auther Hints at A Tragic Ending. But With Varian It's Just More Diffrent He's Not Even A Main Character. So Of Course I'm More Worried and Heartbroken and Protictive of Him. And I don't Know If it will Just get more worse for Him Cause I Remember What Chris Sonderberg The Creater of This series said in an Interview That what Rapunzel does will efect Varian I Think I'm afraid of reading it again. He also said we're all fans of Varian and Rapunzel He Even Liked a tweet I did Defending Him. But That was before secret of the Sundrop and After The Alchemist Returns so it had my Hopes up. And Now I Just Don't know if I Can Rally Trust The Wrters on this. I Love Varian so Much I Want Him To Get His Happy Ending. But I don't think I Can Handel getting My Hopes up for that again. I don't Want Hi To Suffer anymore He Deserves A Happy Ending More Then Anyone. I Just don't Know how much more I Can Take. All This waiting and suspense and worring is driving me Nuts, driving me back to a mindset I thought was Past me



      I know how you feel-it's been driving me crazy-I'm worried for him too and with every passing episode Iv'e found it harder to trust the writers as well. Did he say that Rapunzel's actions will affect Varian before or after Queen for a day?


      After I think It was awile ago

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    • My Post on the Main Varian Page was deleted by someone with Kikyo on their Icon. And I Just wanted them to Understand Varian more and Symphatise with Him More. I Had these Links to Tumblr from Other Fans With Anaylises to better Understand him also some where top Show his Hestation and Regret. Here Look. http://aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/170130667228/girl-from-old-corona-village-what-should-i-feel http://dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/169796247520/themystira-i-dont-care-what-my-dad-says-but http://aphandgflover.tumblr.com/post/170567324363/varian-is-such-a-good-character-its-very-rare-to http://dazais-guardian-angel.tumblr.com/post/170251522225/long-tangled-the-series-spoilery-ramble-below http://aceofstars16.tumblr.com/post/169755955173/anxiouseugene-this-kid-is-so-desperate-its http://littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169745566214/why-do-you-still-like-varian-i-mean-i-get-hes-a http://littlehobbit13.tumblr.com/post/169762966189/sorry-for-butting-in-but-didnt-rapunzel-follow#notes  http://fangirltothefullest.tumblr.com/post/170704418795/littlehobbit13-im-not-trying-to-excuse-any-of http://lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169747892305/dittolicous-lastoneout-dittolicous https://the-alchemical-key.tumblr.com/post/169849898004/you-know-theres-been-something-on-my-mind http://lastoneout.tumblr.com/post/169784715575/so-i-dont-think-that-pointing-out-that-varian-is http://aethermade.tumblr.com/post/170558709824/varian-is-so-kind-and-compassionate-it-takes https://varianfanclub.tumblr.com/post/169718185178/now-that-varian-is-evil-what-u-gonna-do-now#notes[http:// https://varianfanclub.tumblr.com/post/169840491478/poor-kid https://varianfanclub.tumblr.com/post/169840491478/poor-kid] https://varianfanclub.tumblr.com/post/169792066483/please-like-if-still-love-varian-re-blog-if-you

      HOW IS ANY OF THIS NOT VALID PROVE That Varian ISN'T Evil and is Rememable. Who ever deleted my post Dosent Think My Opinions and their Opinnions Are Valid. Why Are They In Charge of Editing! And How Bad is the Personality Page on Varians main Page are. Because I Don't think they Care about him That they think He Can't be redemed or don't have syphathy for him I can't look Cause I'm Afraid of seeing how bad it is. Do They not care How Am I Not Valid I'M Allowed to feel and Express how I Feel about Him

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      LoveJapan55 wrote:
      I've been too Emotional Over Varian. Ever vsince Queen for a day twords Secret of the sundrop I've been worried about him and they just kept making it worse Usully when I get atached to a new favriote Character I don't get this worked up and Emotional aching for them And Usully those favriotes are Protonigsts so I shouldn't be that upset over them espsially If thier Disney Protonigst. The only other character I've evry been this heartbroken about Is Allen Walker from D.Gray.Man. But He's also a Protonigst But The Manga is A Tragedy I knew that when I got in the Story So At Least I was Prepared espisally when the Auther Hints at A Tragic Ending. But With Varian It's Just More Diffrent He's Not Even A Main Character. So Of Course I'm More Worried and Heartbroken and Protictive of Him. And I don't Know If it will Just get more worse for Him Cause I Remember What Chris Sonderberg The Creater of This series said in an Interview That what Rapunzel does will efect Varian I Think I'm afraid of reading it again. He also said we're all fans of Varian and Rapunzel He Even Liked a tweet I did Defending Him. But That was before secret of the Sundrop and After The Alchemist Returns so it had my Hopes up. And Now I Just Don't know if I Can Rally Trust The Wrters on this. I Love Varian so Much I Want Him To Get His Happy Ending. But I don't think I Can Handel getting My Hopes up for that again. I don't Want Hi To Suffer anymore He Deserves A Happy Ending More Then Anyone. I Just don't Know how much more I Can Take. All This waiting and suspense and worring is driving me Nuts, driving me back to a mindset I thought was Past me



      I know how you feel-it's been driving me crazy-I'm worried for him too and with every passing episode Iv'e found it harder to trust the writers as well. Did he say that Rapunzel's actions will affect Varian before or after Queen for a day?


      After I think It was awile ago


      It depends on what was being referenced if he was referencing Queen for a day than we already know that Rapunzel’s actions definitely affected Varain. If he’s talking about future events though than I wouldn’t be surprised either since I believe that in order to gain his trust back she needs to do something big to prove that she’s on his side.

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    • I just read some of your tumblr posts defending Varian and I love them-the one that I agree with the most is tangled the series spoilers ramble. It pretty much summed up all of my thoughts concerning the characters treatment of Varian. When Rapunzel said I don’t even know who he is anymore I responded in my mind he’s your friend who feels all alone in the world and wants his father back. It’s lije Varian was never a friend of theirs to begin with!!!!! These things get me so angry and only further my support of Varian instead of them. No wonder Varian feels like this! Not even his supposed friends have treated him with any kindness!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      I just read some of your tumblr posts defending Varian and I love them-the one that I agree with the most is tangled the series spoilers ramble. It pretty much summed up all of my thoughts concerning the characters treatment of Varian. When Rapunzel said I don’t even know who he is anymore I responded in my mind he’s your friend who feels all alone in the world and wants his father back. It’s lije Varian was never a friend of theirs to begin with!!!!!

      These things get me so angry and only further my support of Varian instead of them. No wonder Varian feels like this! Not even his supposed friends have treated him with any kindness!


      Their not my tumblr posts their from other fans I Hope I was clear about that.

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I just read some of your tumblr posts defending Varian and I love them-the one that I agree with the most is tangled the series spoilers ramble. It pretty much summed up all of my thoughts concerning the characters treatment of Varian. When Rapunzel said I don’t even know who he is anymore I responded in my mind he’s your friend who feels all alone in the world and wants his father back. It’s lije Varian was never a friend of theirs to begin with!!!!!

      These things get me so angry and only further my support of Varian instead of them. No wonder Varian feels like this! Not even his supposed friends have treated him with any kindness!


      Their not my tumblr posts their from other fans I Hope I was clear about that.


      I thought you meant that people had deleted your tumblr posts. But I’m glad that other people care about him. For me it is very frustrating that they’re so antagonistic towards him! He was their friend-n my opinion while they did not mean to betray Varian-they have betrayed the friendship they had with him by treating him that way? Why on earth can’t they seem him for who he truly is? Is it not that obvious?!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I just read some of your tumblr posts defending Varian and I love them-the one that I agree with the most is tangled the series spoilers ramble. It pretty much summed up all of my thoughts concerning the characters treatment of Varian. When Rapunzel said I don’t even know who he is anymore I responded in my mind he’s your friend who feels all alone in the world and wants his father back. It’s lije Varian was never a friend of theirs to begin with!!!!!

      These things get me so angry and only further my support of Varian instead of them. No wonder Varian feels like this! Not even his supposed friends have treated him with any kindness!


      Their not my tumblr posts their from other fans I Hope I was clear about that.


      I thought you meant that people had deleted your tumblr posts. But I’m glad that other people care about him. For me it is very frustrating that they’re so antagonistic towards him! He was their friend-n my opinion while they did not mean to betray Varian-they have betrayed the friendship they had with him by treating him that way? Why on earth can’t they seem him for who he truly is? Is it not that obvious?!


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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I just read some of your tumblr posts defending Varian and I love them-the one that I agree with the most is tangled the series spoilers ramble. It pretty much summed up all of my thoughts concerning the characters treatment of Varian. When Rapunzel said I don’t even know who he is anymore I responded in my mind he’s your friend who feels all alone in the world and wants his father back. It’s lije Varian was never a friend of theirs to begin with!!!!!

      These things get me so angry and only further my support of Varian instead of them. No wonder Varian feels like this! Not even his supposed friends have treated him with any kindness!


      Their not my tumblr posts their from other fans I Hope I was clear about that.


      I thought you meant that people had deleted your tumblr posts. But I’m glad that other people care about him. For me it is very frustrating that they’re so antagonistic towards him! He was their friend-n my opinion while they did not mean to betray Varian-they have betrayed the friendship they had with him by treating him that way? Why on earth can’t they seem him for who he truly is? Is it not that obvious?!



      No I Mean on here. My Post on Varian's Main wiki page was deleted with those Links to the tumblr posts so others on here can Better Understand him and put More Acurate stuff on his Personality page. So They can see Him More Symphathatic which I Don't think they are doing a good job on. 

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:
      I just read some of your tumblr posts defending Varian and I love them-the one that I agree with the most is tangled the series spoilers ramble. It pretty much summed up all of my thoughts concerning the characters treatment of Varian. When Rapunzel said I don’t even know who he is anymore I responded in my mind he’s your friend who feels all alone in the world and wants his father back. It’s lije Varian was never a friend of theirs to begin with!!!!!

      These things get me so angry and only further my support of Varian instead of them. No wonder Varian feels like this! Not even his supposed friends have treated him with any kindness!


      Their not my tumblr posts their from other fans I Hope I was clear about that.


      I thought you meant that people had deleted your tumblr posts. But I’m glad that other people care about him. For me it is very frustrating that they’re so antagonistic towards him! He was their friend-n my opinion while they did not mean to betray Varian-they have betrayed the friendship they had with him by treating him that way? Why on earth can’t they seem him for who he truly is? Is it not that obvious?!



      No I Mean on here. My Post on Varian's Main wiki page was deleted with those Links to the tumblr posts so others on here can Better Understand him and put More Acurate stuff on his Personality page. So They can see Him More Symphathatic which I Don't think they are doing a good job on. 


      Ok. As I said I like those tumblr posts a lot. The only ones who need them more than people who say he’s either mad, evil or insane are the characters from the series themselves don’t you think?

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    • I Actully do have my own tumblr posts I'm Again LoveJapan55.

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    • Once again I know who you are;) but only ever looked at tumblr posts. I don’t have an actual account.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      Once again I know who you are;) but only ever looked at tumblr posts. I don’t have an actual account.

      Ok I Just don't get how you thoght all those were by the same person. When a tumblr post or acont is deleted it's nearly impossible to find again. 

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Once again I know who you are;) but only ever looked at tumblr posts. I don’t have an actual account.

      Ok I Just don't get how you thoght all those were by the same person. When a tumblr post or acont is deleted it's nearly impossible to find again. 


      I don’t have an account so I don’t know much about how things work on tumblr. That’s all.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Once again I know who you are;) but only ever looked at tumblr posts. I don’t have an actual account.

      Ok I Just don't get how you thoght all those were by the same person. When a tumblr post or acont is deleted it's nearly impossible to find again. 


      I don’t have an account so I don’t know much about how things work on tumblr. That’s all.



      ok sorry

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      LoveJapan55 wrote:


      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Once again I know who you are;) but only ever looked at tumblr posts. I don’t have an actual account.

      Ok I Just don't get how you thoght all those were by the same person. When a tumblr post or acont is deleted it's nearly impossible to find again. 


      I don’t have an account so I don’t know much about how things work on tumblr. That’s all.



      ok sorry </div


      That’s ok👍
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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      Ok-relax-Varian totally isn’t going to be exsecuted for his crimes right?!?!


      NOOOOOO?



      This is actually one of my greatest Fears

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    • Yeah mine too-that or he’ll get sent away in a similar fashion to Attila in one angry princess. Even a lifetime in prison bothers me. I’m worried Lady Caine or The Stabbington Brothers might pick on him. I’m also worried that Quirin might be dead-for Varian’s sake if his father is dead it will completely DESTROY him. Varian doesn’t deserve to live in grief and self hatred for the rest of his life. Nor does he deserve to live in a cell for the rest of his life either-and he DEFINITELY does not deserve to be executed! He’s not a bad person!

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    • I assumed Quirin was dead. I mean, how long can someone survive without oxygen? Or water? Or food?

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote: I assumed Quirin was dead. I mean, how long can someone survive without oxygen? Or water? Or food?


      I agree-but this is Disney we’re talking about here. I don’t think they’re big on killer big characters in front of its viewers. In Queen for a day they could have easily liked Rapubzel’s parents and Pascal. I mean-what are the chances of someone so tiny surviving all those gears? So It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Quirin is alive.

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    • Somebody on youtube just compared Redy as I'll Ever be to Hellfire. PLEASE TELL ME THEIR WRONG THOSE TWO ARE NOTHING ALIike I'M SICK OF THIS! HE IS JUST A KID A CHILD STOP COMPARING HIM TO ADULTS!

      When I Said what My Greatest Fear was I Lied That was my second greatest fear My Greatest fear are those two Being compared to eachother Varian Is no MONSTER! Please HELP ME! I DO NOT WANT THAT SHIT IN MY AUTISTIC HEAD!

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:
      Somebody on youtube just compared Redy as I'll Ever be to Hellfire. PLEASE TELL ME THEIR WRONG THOSE TWO ARE NOTHING ALIike I'M SICK OF THIS! HE IS JUST A KID A CHILD STOP COMPARING HIM TO ADULTS!

      When I Said what My Greatest Fear was I Lied That was my second greatest fear My Greatest fear are those two Being compared to eachother Varian Is no MONSTER! Please HELP ME! I DO NOT WANT THAT SHIT IN MY AUTISTIC HEAD!

      WHO DO THOSE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE COMPARINNG VARIAN TO CLAUDE FROLLO?! FROLLO WAS A SADISTIC MANIAC VARIAN IS A LONLEY FOURTEEN YEAR OLD WHO FEELS SO ALONE IN THE WORLD THAT HE FEELS THE NEED TO RESORT TO TREASON AND KIDNAPPING!!!!! CLAUDE FROLLO NEVER FELT ANY REGRET FOR HIS ACTIONS DURING THAT SONG!!!!! VARIAN DID!!!!!!!

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    • Why Can't Varian Just be compared to other Sympathetic Villains or characters who aren't that evil. I'M Sick of it Like Elphaba from Wicked Musical that comparison I can see or the Dark end Hiro From Big hero 6 Stop Comparing A Grieving 14 year old to Evil Irredeemable Bastards! Please I'M Autistic with ocd and am Pmsing It's Hard to get that shit Of My Head! . Varian is Relateble and Realistic but he has A Soul he has good in Him And This Show has Not Been Kind to him He IS SUFFERING THE MOST! HE DESERVES TO HAVE A HAPPY ENDING NOT TO JUST BE WRITTEN OFF AS A VILLAIN OR A MONSTER! Also Varian Loves His DAD Actually Cares about him Admires him He Wants to make Him Proud cause he dosen't feel Understood or Validated. Thats Nothing alick Disney Villians don't feel Love.

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote: Why Can't Varian Just be compared to other Sympathetic Villains or characters who aren't that evil. I'M Sick of it Like Elphaba from Wicked Musical that comparison I can see or the Dark end Hiro From Big hero 6 Stop Comparing A Grieving 14 year old to Evil Irredeemable Bastards! Please I'M Autistic with ocd and am Pmsing It's Hard to get that shit Of My Head! . Varian is Relateble and Realistic but he has A Soul he has good in Him And This Show has Not Been Kind to him He IS SUFFERING THE MOST! HE DESERVES TO HAVE A HAPPY ENDING NOT TO JUST BE WRITTEN OFF AS A VILLAIN OR A MONSTER! Also Varian Loves His DAD Actually Cares about him Admires him He Wants to make Him Proud cause he dosen't feel Understood or Validated. Thats Nothing alick Disney Villians don't feel Love.


      Exactly! People should stop comparing to jerks because unlike them Varian really IS good and has love in his heart. I’ll never forgive this show for what they did to Varian unless they redeem him. But will they? Rapunzel won’t even be in Corona next season!

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    • I love varian and i hope in the next season he saves his dad and turns good
      Variansocut

      Love him

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    • Katie is cool wrote:

      I love varian and i hope in the next season he saves his dad and turns good<figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style=" class="image image-thumbnail"><img src="" alt="Variansocut" class="thumbimage " data-image-key="Variansocut.jpg" data-image-name="Variansocut.jpg" width="180" height="101"></a> <figcaption><a href="/wiki/File:Variansocut.jpg" class="sprite info-icon"></a>

      Love him

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      Me too-nobody deserves it more than him.Variansocut.jpg

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    • Uggg. How much longer until the next season? It's taking foooooorrrrrevvvvvverrrrrrrr.

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      Uggg. How much longer until the next season? It's taking foooooorrrrrevvvvvverrrrrrrr.


      I know right? I DON’T KNOW IF I CAN WAIT MUCH LONGER!!!!! WHERE’S THE PROMO?!?!?!?

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      Uggg. How much longer until the next season? It's taking foooooorrrrrevvvvvverrrrrrrr.


      I know right? I DON’T KNOW IF I CAN WAIT MUCH LONGER!!!!! WHERE’S THE PROMO?!?!?!?

      I KNOW! 

      Now its not even now, so I don't even think that I'll know when it is!

      FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS THERE WASN"T ONE SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      What if we have to until the SUMMER?

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    • Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:

      Tangled4ever14 wrote:

      Uggg. How much longer until the next season? It's taking foooooorrrrrevvvvvverrrrrrrr.


      I know right? I DON’T KNOW IF I CAN WAIT MUCH LONGER!!!!! WHERE’S THE PROMO?!?!?!?

      I KNOW! 

      Now its not even now, so I don't even think that I'll know when it is!

      FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS THERE WASN"T ONE SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      What if we have to until the SUMMER?


      I don’t know!!!! I’ll probably keep counting all the weeks until it comes out!!! That’s too long of a wait for me!!!!!!!!

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    • Read some fanfic in the meantimes.

      Fanfiction can be better cuz some have Good!Varian/Notocc!Varian instead of the evil!Varian and Occ!Varians That appear in the show.

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote: Read some fanfic in the meantimes.

      Fanfiction can be better cuz some have Good!Varian/Notocc!Varian instead of the evil!Varian and Occ!Varians That appear in the show. </div>


      I’ve also been reading fanfics-Zombies be bern trying to get my hands on as many Varian redemption fanfics as I can. I’m currently in the middle of that’s called the Road to Redemption. It’s really good!

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    • Linky link linkety link?

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    • Sorry-to many typos😂 To sum it up I’ve been reading a Varian redemption fanfic called the road to redemption which is great!! The only problem is is that it’s making me hate Cassandra’s guts. She called Varian a murderer!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡 (he wasn’t there thank goodness).

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    • Seriously, Cass? Seriously? What if the poor little boy had been there? UGGGGGGH!!!

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    • Berry of the RainWings wrote: Seriously, Cass? Seriously? What if the poor little boy had been there? UGGGGGGH!!!


      Everything that could have possibly gone wrong would have. ECSPECIALLY if Varian had scoffed and asked her “who” and without think Cassandra would say “your father.” Then things would probably get violent concerning Varian after a few moments of silence. But luckily when I asked the author they said things would change as the story continued.

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:

      Berry of the RainWings wrote: Seriously, Cass? Seriously? What if the poor little boy had been there? UGGGGGGH!!!

      Everything that could have possibly gone wrong would have. ECSPECIALLY if Varian had scoffed and asked her “who” and without think Cassandra would say “your father.” Then things would probably get violent concerning Varian after a few moments of silence. But luckily when I asked the author they said things would change as the story continued.

      Or he would have ran off crying and Cass would be like, "Opps." Then Raps might get angry with  her.

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    • It frustrates me how people treat Varian more like a monster than the young, boy he his. Including Cassandra and Eugene. Remember how they burst through the door pointing an accusatory finger at him saying “there he is!” The people of Corona got upset that Queen Ariana was taken and led a makeshift army to him. They view him as a criminal-nothing more. They got all upset when in truth it’s Varian who’s suffering the most. What happened to kindness? Compassion. That’s what Varian needs! He needs someone to approach him in an understanding manner. What he needs is someone to show him he is not alone and that there’s another way. A better way out of this mess he’s in. But nope! Nobody is even bothering to try and understand him in the slightest!

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    • LuluBart819 wrote:
      It frustrates me how people treat Varian more like a monster than the young, boy he his. Including Cassandra and Eugene. Remember how they burst through the door pointing an accusatory finger at him saying “there he is!” The people of Corona got upset that Queen Ariana was taken and led a makeshift army to him. They view him as a criminal-nothing more. They got all upset when in truth it’s Varian who’s suffering the most. What happened to kindness? Compassion. That’s what Varian needs! He needs someone to approach him in an understanding manner. What he needs is someone to show him he is not alone and that there’s another way. A better way out of this mess he’s in. But nope! Nobody is even bothering to try and understand him in the slightest!

      Yes THANK YOU! I Was expecting Rapunzel to be more understandind to him cause I thought that's the type of person she is But No. And because of that she's no longer my favriote disney princess Moana is she showed understanding and compassion to Te Ka.

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:
      LuluBart819 wrote:
      It frustrates me how people treat Varian more like a monster than the young, boy he his. Including Cassandra and Eugene. Remember how they burst through the door pointing an accusatory finger at him saying “there he is!” The people of Corona got upset that Queen Ariana was taken and led a makeshift army to him. They view him as a criminal-nothing more. They got all upset when in truth it’s Varian who’s suffering the most. What happened to kindness? Compassion. That’s what Varian needs! He needs someone to approach him in an understanding manner. What he needs is someone to show him he is not alone and that there’s another way. A better way out of this mess he’s in. But nope! Nobody is even bothering to try and understand him in the slightest!
      Yes THANK YOU! I Was expecting Rapunzel to be more understandind to him cause I thought that's the type of person she is But No. And because of that she's no longer my favriote disney princess Moana is she showed understanding and compassion to Te Ka.

      I agree. Unless Rapunzel does something insanely nice for Varain, then Moana is my favorite.

      And I mean insanely. Something so nice that anyone would forgive her something like................

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    • I want to sing "Home" for Varain and scream the parts in the song where it says just know you’re not alone

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    • LoveJapan55 wrote:

      LuluBart819 wrote:
      It frustrates me how people treat Varian more like a monster than the young, boy he his. Including Cassandra and Eugene. Remember how they burst through the door pointing an accusatory finger at him saying “there he is!” The people of Corona got upset that Queen Ariana was taken and led a makeshift army to him. They view him as a criminal-nothing more. They got all upset when in truth it’s Varian who’s suffering the most. What happened to kindness? Compassion. That’s what Varian needs! He needs someone to approach him in an understanding manner. What he needs is someone to show him he is not alone and that there’s another way. A better way out of this mess he’s in. But nope! Nobody is even bothering to try and understand him in the slightest!

      Yes THANK YOU! I Was expecting Rapunzel to be more understandind to him cause I thought that's the type of person she is But No. And because of that she's no longer my favriote disney princess Moana is she showed understanding and compassion to Te Ka.


      YES EXACTLY!!! Throughout the finale Icwass hoping, waiting for the movie mention when she would show some compassion toward him! But no. When the automaton attacked who was the first person she thought of? Varian. She burst in not the throne room insisting that he was up to something. At the beginning she called him an “unstable alchemist!” And st the end of the alchemist returns she said that she doesn’t even know who he is anymore. That made me angry. You don’t know who he is Rapunzel? Don’t worry I do! He is a fourteen year old boy who feels all alone in be in the world to the point where he feel resigned to commuting treason and kidnapping. He is a boy who is grieving and devastated that his father his only parent is trapped in Amber and is doing anything he can to free him. What infuriates me the most is that Varian is the only one being punished. Nobody else has to take responsibility. Rapunzel gets to travel the world while Varian goes to prison? That isn’t right. She had a part in this and she should take responsibility for it. What you said is true. Moana showed compassion towards Te KA. Beneath all the rage and anger she saw that she was still the benevolent Te fiti underneath. What makes Varian so different? Whether they like it or Varian’s anger is not misplaced (with the exception of Nigel) he has every reason to be angry with the king and Rapunzel. But not for what they did (the king ignored Quirin’s warning about the rocks) (Rapunzel denies Varian the help he needed) its what they did afterwards that bothers me. After the Queen was healed and gave a successful birth to a healthy Rapunzel then the King could have turned his attention to the black rocks-but he didn’t he said that he ignored them hoping that everyone else would as well. Those rocks were destroying Varian’s hometown, encased his father and he’s just supposed to ignore them?! They ruined his life for crying out loud! As for Rapunzel while she could have gone to him after the blizzard was over. As soon as her parents returned there was nothing stopping he