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Regarding Shush:
 
Regarding Shush:
   
I still don't understand why people think this experiment is female in the first place. It really seems like a fan's false opinion just went viral around the internet... As I said before, I really think we should go with the info from his actual Series episode for now. Shush was described with '''male-only pronouns''', and there is entirely no other evidence that suggests he is female, so I really think it is safe to say he is indeed a male. If you would like to use gender-neutral pronouns, I guess that's definitely a better option than inaccurately calling him a female -- but I still insist that we use male pronouns for Shush due to him being called a male by all of the characters in his debut episode, and there being no other sources to confirm anything otherwise. Honestly, why would we need to ''confirm'' it when we already have Shush's episode to use as a source? No, I do not want to bug Winfield about it on Twitter. Twitter is toxic, in my opinion, and I do not even have an account there, nor do I want one. That isn't necessary anyway. As I said, we have Shush's ''Series'' episode as a source. ''The Series'' episode (although you are skeptical of ''The Series'') in my opinion, is perfectly trustworthy. I don't see any harm in using it as the source for Shush's true gender for now. If something comes up later (like what happened with Yin's finally-confirmed gender), we can always fix the article, but I doubt that will happen.
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I still don't understand why people think this experiment is female in the first place. It really seems like a fan's false opinion just went viral around the internet... As I said before, I really think we should go with the info from his actual Series episode for now. Shush was described with '''male-only pronouns''', and there is entirely no other evidence that suggests he is female, so I really think it is safe to say he is indeed a male. If you would like to use gender-neutral pronouns, I guess that's definitely a better option than inaccurately calling him a female -- but I still insist that we use male pronouns for Shush due to him being called a male by all of the characters in his debut episode, and there being no other sources to confirm anything otherwise. Honestly, why would we need to ''confirm'' it when we already have Shush's episode to use as a source? No, I do not want to bug Winfield about it on Twitter. Twitter is toxic, in my opinion, and I do not even have an account there, nor do I want one. That isn't necessary anyway. As I said, we have Shush's ''Series'' episode as a source. ''The Series'' episode (although you are skeptical of ''The Series'') in my opinion, is perfectly trustworthy. I don't see any harm in using it as the source for Shush's true gender for now. If something comes up later (like what happened with Yin's re-confirmed gender), we can always fix the article, but I doubt that will happen.
   
 
Regarding the trivia fact you suggested: ''"Lilo and Pleakley referred to Shush as a male in their debut, but they are often considered to be female by fans."'':
 
Regarding the trivia fact you suggested: ''"Lilo and Pleakley referred to Shush as a male in their debut, but they are often considered to be female by fans."'':

Latest revision as of 01:49, September 5, 2019

Hello,

I received and read your message on the Lilo & Stitch Wiki ( https://liloandstitch.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:33406 ), but I still can't post or edit anything there at the moment due to the mishap, so I'll just answer you here, if you don't mind.

First of all, I appreciate your reply. I honestly didn't mean to startle anyone with my deluge of edits. I had been itching to fix up the errors on the Lilo & Stitch Wiki for years. Quite frankly, it was (and still is) a fanon-riddled mess. Being a huge fan of the series since the original movie, all of those inaccuracies and fan-fiction was driving me crazy. Seeing as I noticed that you had recently started removing all of the fan-art, I didn't think it would be a problem to help you out with purging the articles themselves of the fanon material. Nobody else seemed interested, and as you mentioned, many fans of the series tend to avoid that Wiki entirely due to all of the issues it has.

Regarding Shush:

I still don't understand why people think this experiment is female in the first place. It really seems like a fan's false opinion just went viral around the internet... As I said before, I really think we should go with the info from his actual Series episode for now. Shush was described with male-only pronouns, and there is entirely no other evidence that suggests he is female, so I really think it is safe to say he is indeed a male. If you would like to use gender-neutral pronouns, I guess that's definitely a better option than inaccurately calling him a female -- but I still insist that we use male pronouns for Shush due to him being called a male by all of the characters in his debut episode, and there being no other sources to confirm anything otherwise. Honestly, why would we need to confirm it when we already have Shush's episode to use as a source? No, I do not want to bug Winfield about it on Twitter. Twitter is toxic, in my opinion, and I do not even have an account there, nor do I want one. That isn't necessary anyway. As I said, we have Shush's Series episode as a source. The Series episode (although you are skeptical of The Series) in my opinion, is perfectly trustworthy. I don't see any harm in using it as the source for Shush's true gender for now. If something comes up later (like what happened with Yin's re-confirmed gender), we can always fix the article, but I doubt that will happen.

Regarding the trivia fact you suggested: "Lilo and Pleakley referred to Shush as a male in their debut, but they are often considered to be female by fans.":

If you think gender-neutral is currently the best option for his article, I think the first part "Lilo and Pleakley referred to Shush as a male in their debut." is fine. But the part about what "fans" think just doesn't sound professional for a Wikia that is supposed to include canonical information. It really doesn't matter what "fans" think. The truth is what really matters.

I get everything about Yin, and the new TsumTsum App confirming her gender finally. As I said in a previous post, I apologize for the oversight regarding Yin's very recently confirmed gender. I'm personally not interested in Disney TsumTsum or Disney App games at all, so if the App it is that popular, as you mentioned, I just missed it, so I had no idea about the news regarding Yin. All I knew of her was from The Series - where she was called "him" and "he" constantly, and wore a simple pink bathrobe at Stitch's slumber party in Dupe's debut episode, which didn't convince me that Yin was female. Also Yin was allured by Angel's song, and was among the all-male experiments that were hypnotized into attacking Stitch in Angel's debut episode, so that had also convinced me Yin was male -- though I realize Angel's siren song probably works on all experiments before Reuben, regardless of gender. It is possible that Yin was originally supposed to be a male experiment, but Disney changed it due to the popularity of the fandom's opinion... Really seems weird to me, but I see that they have apparently confirmed it with that App. Can we trust an App over the actual series? Well, that's for the admins to decide, I suppose. I have nothing more to say about Yin. Just explaining my reasoning for changing the gender on Yin's article -- I meant no harm.

Anyhow, I do have the entire Lilo & Stitch: The Series on my PC, every episode, and I can pull up any episode and watch it any time. I am a huge fan of Lilo and Stitch: The Series (as well as the movies) and have watched the episodes many times (with Shush's being one of my favourites that I am very familiar with). I know it may have its minor inconsistencies, like any cartoon, but I insist we use it as our source on Shush for now, as there is no other source.

Let me know what you think.

-Tech

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